Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

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Whose Hard Brexit do you want to get shafted by?

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:23 pm

pErvinalia wrote:He hasn't underestimated it. He would be fully informed of a tariff war. He's doing it on principle. It's the core concern (other than hate and racism) of his voters. Whether he gets it through is another matter. I don't know how this works in regard to the different branches of government, but assuming Congress has any say on the matter, I wouldn't expect this to get passed.
That is a massive presumption when it involves Trump; " He would be fully informed of a tariff war. "
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:10 pm

It's not really. I was talking about it (along with anyone else with a couple of brain cells) more than a year ago regarding the exact same election promise. Whether he comprehends it or not is another matter, I guess.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:18 pm

He could not care.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Rum » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:49 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:So? Tariffs are not going to hit the UK? We can absorb them and hit back. Do you think the UK will be able to?
There's absolutely no difference whether the UK was in the EU or not. The same proportions apply.
Being part of the second largest economic bloc in the world does not make any difference? I think you will find that it does.
The tariffs will apply evenly to both, if Donald is to be believed. So the UK will suffer the same effect whether it is in the EU or not.
It wont have the economic clout to fight back. This is also what Trump has totally underestimated. These tariffs will hurt the USA far more than the EU. Little England out on its own wont stand a chance.
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Trump steps up war of words on trade with threat to tax EU cars


US President Donald Trump has stepped up his war of words over trade tariffs, threatening to "apply a tax" on imports of cars from the European Union.

Mr Trump said other countries had taken advantage of the US for years because of its "very stupid" trade deals.

The trade wrangle began on Thursday when Mr Trump vowed to impose hefty tariffs on steel and aluminium imports.

That brought a stiff response from trading partners and criticism from the IMF and WTO.

EU trade chiefs have reportedly been considering slapping 25% tariffs on around $3.5bn (£2.5bn) of imports from the US, following Mr Trump's proposal of a 25% tariff on imported steel and 10% on aluminium.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:10 pm

I guess it stopped everyone talking about gun control.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by JimC » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:52 am

Guns will be more expensive, with the rise of steel prices!
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:39 pm

Putting tariffs on European Cars? He really is stupid:

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by JimC » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:03 pm

Scot, I would think any proposed tariffs would be based on whether they're imported vs made locally, not the location of the original company...
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:48 pm

To the Trump thread with this lumpen nonsense. :lay:
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:28 am

JimC wrote:Scot, I would think any proposed tariffs would be based on whether they're imported vs made locally, not the location of the original company...
Those cars are made locally. Nothing to do with the company who makes them.

Brian this has to do with both threads. Import tariffs on British steel would be a further body blow to the UK economy.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:40 am

Yeah, Trump's America First impulses are completely at odds with the Brexiteers wet dream of the UK achieving a magical open trading arrangement with US the day after Brexit day.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:04 am

I know I sound like an old conspiracy hack but I wonder what Trump offered May, Johnson and Farage? Was Farage eating from two plates; Trump and Putin. The EU is for both a thorn in the eye. I always remember the comments of the American speculators and the tory right wing when the Euro came into existence; it would not last a year and was a complete nonsense. The Koch Bros et al have always been against it but have failed to make any real dent in it. Maggie did her best to derail the whole EU project but failed.
She did manage to delay it though and thanks to the other leaders in the EU the UK was kept on board by giving her concessions. I really believe the whole intention of Brexit was to start the destruction of the EU. The American speculators and the British 1% would just love it and with the collapse of the Euro they would have a field day. It would suit Putin very well and could form his empire easily.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by mistermack » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:03 pm

It makes me laugh that people bang on about forecasts of the UK economy being 2% or 4% less in ten years time as a result of Brexit.

In the last war, about half a million brits died, as a result of our wanting to not be dominated by the Germans.
And the economy was shattered for years after.
3% is a tiny price to pay. In any case, 3% off the size of the economy isn't the same as 3% off your income.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:17 pm

The war is over MrM. Time to let that one go.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:08 pm

mistermack wrote:It makes me laugh that people bang on about forecasts of the UK economy being 2% or 4% less in ten years time as a result of Brexit.

In the last war, about half a million brits died, as a result of our wanting to not be dominated by the Germans.
And the economy was shattered for years after.
3% is a tiny price to pay. In any case, 3% off the size of the economy isn't the same as 3% off your income.
Where did you get that from? The Daily Wail or the Sin.
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