Right Wing Regressives Need to Stop

[Brian Peacock]

Steady Tiger.

[JimC]

LGBT is a mental illness. Technically a genetic defect I think the current wisdom is.

So, off to the gas chambers with them, along with Jews, Blacks, Gypsies and all deviants from the Aryan ideal, eh?

[Collector1337]

LGBT is a mental illness. Technically a genetic defect I think the current wisdom is.

So, off to the gas chambers with them, along with Jews, Blacks, Gypsies and all deviants from the Aryan ideal, eh?

Nice strawman.

[JimC]

LGBT is a mental illness. Technically a genetic defect I think the current wisdom is.

So, off to the gas chambers with them, along with Jews, Blacks, Gypsies and all deviants from the Aryan ideal, eh?

Nice strawman.

Not at all. You are a little more circumspect, but Tyrannical consistently expresses arguments which would find a happy home in the Third Reich, as does the Dodo man...

And your knowledge of the language of debate is lacking. My response could be accused of containing a little hyperbole (although I would not agree), but a straw man it is not...

[Collector1337]

LGBT is a mental illness. Technically a genetic defect I think the current wisdom is.

So, off to the gas chambers with them, along with Jews, Blacks, Gypsies and all deviants from the Aryan ideal, eh?

Nice strawman.

Not at all. You are a little more circumspect, but Tyrannical consistently expresses arguments which would find a happy home in the Third Reich, as does the Dodo man...

And your knowledge of the language of debate is lacking. My response could be accused of containing a little hyperbole (although I would not agree), but a straw man it is not...

Yet again, calling people names, in this case a Nazi (essentially), is not an argument.

This is more of the same leftist tactics of calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a Nazi. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself for using these kind of tactics while at the same time claiming my knowledge of debate is lacking.

[laklak]

Best police force/justice system money can buy.

I also love how income gained through long term (12 months) capital gains is taxed at no more than 20% in the USA, no matter how rich or poor you are.

Me too! It's my very favorite part of the tax code. Certain investments attract a rate of either 25 or 28% for higher income filers; however, for the majority of people the rate is either 0 (combined income < 75,900) or 15% (combined income > 75900 and < 470,100). Over that level the rate is 20%.

We sold a rental house and made a tidy profit, but will pay zero capital gains tax. I am quite OK with that. Actually I haven't paid any federal tax in years. I'm quite OK with that, too.

[JimC]

LGBT is a mental illness. Technically a genetic defect I think the current wisdom is.

So, off to the gas chambers with them, along with Jews, Blacks, Gypsies and all deviants from the Aryan ideal, eh?

Nice strawman.

Not at all. You are a little more circumspect, but Tyrannical consistently expresses arguments which would find a happy home in the Third Reich, as does the Dodo man...

And your knowledge of the language of debate is lacking. My response could be accused of containing a little hyperbole (although I would not agree), but a straw man it is not...

Yet again, calling people names, in this case a Nazi (essentially), is not an argument.

This is more of the same leftist tactics of calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a Nazi. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself for using these kind of tactics while at the same time claiming my knowledge of debate is lacking.

Have you actually read many of Tyrannical's posts?

Calling Jews "kikes", and blacks subhuman?

If that isn't a fucking good fit with Nazi ideology, I don't know what is...

[Collector1337]

Have you actually read many of Tyrannical's posts?

Calling Jews "kikes", and blacks subhuman?

If that isn't a fucking good fit with Nazi ideology, I don't know what is...

Is having an in-group preference racist?

[JimC]

Have you actually read many of Tyrannical's posts?

Calling Jews "kikes", and blacks subhuman?

If that isn't a fucking good fit with Nazi ideology, I don't know what is...

Is having an in-group preference racist?

Not in itself, but when (as is often the case) it is accompanied by out-group hatred based on race, it certainly is...

[Forty Two]

[L'Emmerdeur said that] the LGBT example was not an equivalent example, but there has yet to be an explanation as to why it's not.

It's not equivalent because the generic "LGBT parade" example you used is a celebration, not an overtly political event.

That doesn't make it something that can't be protested. A St. Patrick's Day Parade is not an overtly political event either, but it's fairly common to see protests against it.

Similarly, Julius Caesar is not an "overtly political event." It's a Shakespeare play.

There is no reason why the only fit subjects for protest are things that are "overtly politically." Some things have less overt or non-overt political themes. Some people protest for religious reasons. Some protest for social or moral reasons.

In this post I think I made it pretty clear that I was distinguishing between political protest at a political event and your specious attempts at making political protest at non-political events equivalent.

The context was a protest of the kind against the Shakespearean play "Julius Caesar," which is not a "political event."

My position is that if some group is making a political statement, it is a legitimate action for another group to publicly and non-violently oppose it. Staging a political protest against a family picnic (one of your more absurd false equivalencies) is not an equivalent action. Your inability to distinguish between the two is your problem, not mine.

Being pro-LGBT is a political statement to some people. Maybe not to you. But, to some people it has both political and religious import. For example, the LG bit involves marriage equality issues, adoption issues, and to some people they view the issue as having overall societal and cultural issues - all of that is political to some. They may not want to see Ls and Gs promoted or accepted in society. As bad as you and I might view that, it's THEIR political view. Also, the T bit involves those same issues, plus issues of funding for transitioning hormones and procedures, legislation involving legal protections for them, etc. Opposition to that is political in the minds of many. So, protesting a pro-LGBT play, to the protesters, is political. They choose to protest that pro-LGBT play or event, because it's where their message against LGBT issues will be seen and heard.

It is equivalent.

[rainbow]

Have you actually read many of Tyrannical's posts?

Calling Jews "kikes", and blacks subhuman?

If that isn't a fucking good fit with Nazi ideology, I don't know what is...

Is having an in-group preference racist?

No, Colonicenema1337

What gave you that idea?

[Forty Two]

Best police force/justice system money can buy.

I also love how income gained through long term (12 months) capital gains is taxed at no more than 20% in the USA, no matter how rich or poor you are.

There's good reason why capital gains should be taxed fairly low. If you were tax "capital gains" at 50%, for example, then when you opened up a TD Ameritrade account, put $500 in -- taking 100% of the risk -- and investing in a stock or bond. Then you leave that money there for two years and it turns into, say $1000, if you are taxed at 50% then the $500 that you gained, would be cut in half. You now have only $250 for your risk and loss of use of funds for 2 years. If you invested that $500 and it went down to $400, nobody is reimbursing you. Nobody else is bearing that risk.

So, as a matter of government policy, if you want people to invest their money, and increase the money available for lending to businesses and industry, then you don't want to eliminate the benefit to the people taking the risk.

[Forty Two]

LGBT isn't a political persuasion but a state of being.

However, it is often strongly associated with generally left-leaning politics...

Yeah, but only coz it's only the left that are bothered about securing legal and civil equality for all. The framers of the US constitution: Lefties.

Everyone is already equal under the law.

What more do you want?

The gender wage gap provides you an answer. Equality under the law is insufficient. If there is a disparity in an economic outcome between two designated groups, then the reason is sexism or racism, etc., and that must be remedied. So, when side A says women are paid less than men, and side B says "well, women work fewer hours, and take jobs in lower paying fields," then side A responds that the reason they do that is because of sexism, so equality requires legislative action to equalize hours worked or to compensate jobs in fields women tend to take more (because fields women tend to take are no less "valuable" than fields men tend to take).

[pErvinalia]

In this post I think I made it pretty clear that I was distinguishing between political protest at a political event and your specious attempts at making political protest at non-political events equivalent.

The context was a protest of the kind against the Shakespearean play "Julius Caesar," which is not a "political event."

It most certainly is when the main character is the President.

[pErvinalia]

Best police force/justice system money can buy.

I also love how income gained through long term (12 months) capital gains is taxed at no more than 20% in the USA, no matter how rich or poor you are.

There's good reason why capital gains should be taxed fairly low. If you were tax "capital gains" at 50%, for example, then when you opened up a TD Ameritrade account, put $500 in -- taking 100% of the risk -- and investing in a stock or bond. Then you leave that money there for two years and it turns into, say $1000, if you are taxed at 50% then the $500 that you gained, would be cut in half. You now have only $250 for your risk and loss of use of funds for 2 years. If you invested that $500 and it went down to $400, nobody is reimbursing you.

In Australia we have capital losses where you can offset previous losses against current and future gains. I'd be surprised if you didn't have a similar thing in the US.