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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:14 pm

I think you’re right to worry about those things. However, when discussing our history of foreign affairs, any individual president takes on less importance –in my opinion—than what have been our long-term goals and how we have gone about achieving them.

I’ve had this conversation many times in my life. I view the US as incredibly successful, and while I appreciate luck’s contribution to all things, I believe we have largely been able to maintain our position by remaining faithful to a philosophy that is shared by both parties.

It’s that philosophy that I’d like to see Democrats seriously challenge.
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Post by Tero » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:04 pm

The president's thinking once he becomes president. The role is more important than the man. Also, the politician swings toward the middle in foreign affairs.

But none of that really affects Trump. He is only concerned about how HE looks, not we.
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Post by laklak » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:46 pm

He's not actually the boogeyman, you know, or the Antichrist. He's no worse or better than any number of other dickwads who've held office. He's not going to make himself President for Life. He's not going to declare martial law and put progressives in death camps, he's not going to abolish elections or Congress or SCOTUS or take the vote away from women or minorities, or any of the other utterly ridiculous things bruited about by hysterical idiots. If he wins in 2020 he wins in 2020, we'll all survive, and he'll be out in 2024. Some other smarmy fuckwad will be in and either the Left or the Right will be going on and on and on about the collapse of Human Civilization. We'll still be shooting other people and General Dynamics stock will continue to rise.

People need to get a fucking grip. It be what it be.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:12 pm

No, psople are not willing to wait. 1.5 years and he has to go. To jail, to bankrupcy.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:26 pm

You've been dancing to that tune since the election. Aren't you getting tired by now? The alternative to Trump has to be more than 'no Trump' otherwise things just tick along as they always have - that is, getting a bit worse every time untill it all goes thhlllopppssfffp.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by JimC » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:01 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:26 pm
You've been dancing to that tune since the election. Aren't you getting tired by now? The alternative to Trump has to be more than 'no Trump' otherwise things just tick along as they always have - that is, getting a bit worse every time untill it all goes thhlllopppssfffp.
I want a 42-length post explicating, in full detail, the nature of "thhlllopppssfffp" :tea:
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Post by Tero » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:42 pm

Sean, you are saying the Democrats are the swamp? One and all, all the same?
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:50 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:26 pm
You've been dancing to that tune since the election. Aren't you getting tired by now? The alternative to Trump has to be more than 'no Trump' otherwise things just tick along as they always have - that is, getting a bit worse every time untill it all goes thhlllopppssfffp.
Well he has to go. Now he is after my wife's health insurance:
On one side are the Trump administration and 18 states, led by Texas, that agree with O'Connor's decision and want the law dismantled. On the other side are the U.S. House of Representatives and 16 states, led by California, seeking to have that ruling reversed. A threshold question is whether the House, and possibly the liberal states, have the required legal authority to defend a law the federal government is not defending.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by JimC » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:48 pm

Tero wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:42 pm
Sean, you are saying the Democrats are the swamp? One and all, all the same?
The swamp in the US is the long-term, insidious strangle hold on American politics by powerful vested interests. All of your political parties have had a damned good wallow...
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:28 am

Yeah but the GOP is 90% swamp controlled. The dems only 50%.
GOP pushes this stuff
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:55 am

Tero wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:50 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:26 pm
You've been dancing to that tune since the election. Aren't you getting tired by now? The alternative to Trump has to be more than 'no Trump' otherwise things just tick along as they always have - that is, getting a bit worse every time untill it all goes thhlllopppssfffp.
Well he has to go. Now he is after my wife's health insurance:
On one side are the Trump administration and 18 states, led by Texas, that agree with O'Connor's decision and want the law dismantled. On the other side are the U.S. House of Representatives and 16 states, led by California, seeking to have that ruling reversed. A threshold question is whether the House, and possibly the liberal states, have the required legal authority to defend a law the federal government is not defending.
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1633128001
In which case focusing on Trump is not focusing on this issue or where the decisions are actually being made.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:59 am

Tero wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:28 am
Yeah but the GOP is 90% swamp controlled. The dems only 50%.
GOP pushes this stuff
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
And if the Dems roll in the leeches will drop off the withered corpse of the Repuglicans and affix their gnashers to the fresh meat.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by laklak » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:23 am

I'm no thhlllopppssfffpher, but I know what's what, by Gum.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:49 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:55 am
Tero wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:50 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:26 pm
You've been dancing to that tune since the election. Aren't you getting tired by now? The alternative to Trump has to be more than 'no Trump' otherwise things just tick along as they always have - that is, getting a bit worse every time untill it all goes thhlllopppssfffp.
Well he has to go. Now he is after my wife's health insurance:
On one side are the Trump administration and 18 states, led by Texas, that agree with O'Connor's decision and want the law dismantled. On the other side are the U.S. House of Representatives and 16 states, led by California, seeking to have that ruling reversed. A threshold question is whether the House, and possibly the liberal states, have the required legal authority to defend a law the federal government is not defending.
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1633128001
In which case focusing on Trump is not focusing on this issue or where the decisions are actually being made.
Trump is guiding decisions by his appointments and EOs. He is legislating.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by laklak » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:05 am

So do they all, Tero. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, ad nauseum, ALL of them did exactly the same thing. The only difference is The Donald tweets about it.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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