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Of course not, and that's settled law. But subsidizing artists isn't the same thing as guaranteeing free political speech, it's giving free money to some people, paid for by other people, the vast majority of whom don't give two shits about "art". What has art ever actually done for anyone? If the Mona Lisa wasn't painted nothing would be any different than it is now. It's not like the latest exhibition or opera performance fed any hungry people, supported a homeless shelter, or paid for chemo treatments, is it?
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Life would suck balls without art. I'm not necessarily arguing that tax dollars should go into funding the arts, but I will say that I would prefer to see more of my taxes go to funding the arts than all the perpetual warfare...laklak wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:58 pmWhat has art ever actually done for anyone? If the Mona Lisa wasn't painted nothing would be any different than it is now. It's not like the latest exhibition or opera performance fed any hungry people, supported a homeless shelter, or paid for chemo treatments, is it?
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Yeah, it's a pretty narrow view of the world if you can't see how beneficial art has been to civilisation.
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I didn't hear anyone say that.
I do hear people saying they don't want to be forced to pay for someone elses idea of 'art' though.
I do hear people saying they don't want to be forced to pay for someone elses idea of 'art' though.
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Maybe you need to put your reading glasses on.
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pErvinalia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:48 pmYeah, it's a pretty narrow view of the world if you can't see how beneficial art has been to civilisation.
pErvinalia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:56 pmMaybe you need to put your reading glasses on.
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Got em on. I'm even squinting.
He didn't say the words you tried to put in his mouth.
Why not try 'steelmanning' instead of your usual 'strawmanning'.
Oh, and my apologies if you have indeed fairly represented laklak's position.
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Of course you disagree. Wouldn't expect otherwise.
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Art is great. I love it. I got more music and film and video and whatever than most people. The house is full of art from all over the world, from me, Mrs. Lak, my parents, her parents. My life would be incredibly dull without art in one form or another. I just don't see how it's in the purview of the government to fund it. There's other shit needs funding. Though I do agree with Seabass, better to fund the arts than bomb Syria.
I'll make a couple of exceptions. The Library of Congress, for example, and local and state funding for public libraries. Federal funding for public school art programs, though that should be at the discretion of local school boards, they know where the money needs to go. Design of public monuments, buildings, etc. Other things, maybe, I'd have to think about it on a case by case basis.
I'll make a couple of exceptions. The Library of Congress, for example, and local and state funding for public libraries. Federal funding for public school art programs, though that should be at the discretion of local school boards, they know where the money needs to go. Design of public monuments, buildings, etc. Other things, maybe, I'd have to think about it on a case by case basis.
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When a philosopher submits a paper about dog park humping behaviour, and the academic journal publishes it, and gave it an award for exemplary scholarship, is it 'art'?
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That would be science. Biology IMHO
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You missed the sarcasm. I was parroting the structure of argument presented by leftists.rainbow wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:00 amFFSForty Two wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:18 pmNo no. You need to love all government. Opposing some, and having a view as to the proper role of government is what right wingers do.
If you think some of the government is bad, then you're no different than the typical right of center conservative. You just like different parts of it.
Someone thinks some of the government is bad
Conservatives think some of the government is bad
Therefore anyone who thinks that anything is wrong with government is a right-wing nutjob.
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In all fairness, they're not taking into account that much, if not all, of that $512 million would be leveraged without the $43 million.BarnettNewman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:04 pmYou wouldn’t know a good investment if it hit you in the face.Cunt wrote:I believe in funding art, but when the government tries to do it, we end up paying our taxes into fucking Marvel movies...it's fucking ludicrous.
Creative returns on investment: Funding the arts grows the bottom line | The StarJohn Brotman, executive director of the Ontario Arts Council, also points to the $300 million that Ontario artists gave back through income tax (based on the 2006 census). The organizations the council funds leverage $512 million in direct expenditures from the $43 million they receive in grants every year.
But, there is nothing necessarily "wrong" with the government funding some of the "arts." The question just becomes "which arts ought to be funded..."?
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