Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

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Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by rainbow » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:37 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/25/polit ... rder-wall/
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Re: Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:39 pm

What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included. So, what he did was avoid a "government shut down" game of brinkmanship. The Democrats were willing to shut down the government on this issue. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/24/d ... rder-wall/
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Re: Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by Hermit » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:47 pm

Forty Two wrote:What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included. So, what he did was avoid a "government shut down" game of brinkmanship. The Democrats were willing to shut down the government on this issue. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/24/d ... rder-wall/
Strange to think the Democrats have the power do that. Who has the majority in both houses again?
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:54 pm

Hermit wrote:
Forty Two wrote:What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included. So, what he did was avoid a "government shut down" game of brinkmanship. The Democrats were willing to shut down the government on this issue. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/24/d ... rder-wall/
Strange to think the Democrats have the power do that. Who has the majority in both houses again?
Filibuster.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:59 pm

Didn't the repubs get rid of the filibuster? Or was that just for the specific vote on the supreme court judge?
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:03 pm

only for SCOTUS nominees
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Post by Hermit » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Forty Two wrote:What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included. So, what he did was avoid a "government shut down" game of brinkmanship. The Democrats were willing to shut down the government on this issue. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/24/d ... rder-wall/
Strange to think the Democrats have the power do that. Who has the majority in both houses again?
Filibuster.
Orly? The Republicans could try to use a legislative process called budget reconciliation to circumvent filibusters, meaning they would need only simple majority approval from the Republicans in each chamber. That's what Mick Mulvaney said anyway, but then he's only a Republican member of the house of reps, and director of the Office of Management and Budget, so what would he know?
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Post by JimC » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:20 pm

Not as much as 42, that's for sure...
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Re: Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by Tero » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:49 pm

Forty Two wrote:What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included. So, what he did was avoid a "government shut down" game of brinkmanship. The Democrats were willing to shut down the government on this issue. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/24/d ... rder-wall/
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Re: Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:13 pm

Forty Two wrote:What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included. So, what he did was avoid a "government shut down" game of brinkmanship. The Democrats were willing to shut down the government on this issue. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/24/d ... rder-wall/
What does it matter what Democrats say when they are the minority grouping in both houses? Surely, given the precedent of the rule change on voting proportions for supreme court nominations, all the Republicans have to do is revoke the 'sequester' obligations that cap military and domestic spending increases along with the filibuster rule that Republicans previously insisted be associated with that measure? Sure, the Democrats think that the budget proposals stink, but that shouldn't be a concern for the Republicans in control of the three branches of government. And even if the Democrats stymie the passage of the budget it's not like the principle is fundamentally repugnant to Republican representatives is it?
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Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:12 am

Repubs getting a taste of their own medicine. :yes:
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Re: Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by rainbow » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:24 am

Forty Two wrote:What he caved on was demanding $1.4 billion in money for the wall to be included in the omnibus spending bill, which the Democrats said would not pass if any such money was included.
I thought the Mexicans were going to pay for it.
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Re: Humpty Trumpty sat on a Wall.

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:31 pm

No.
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