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Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:19 pm

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LINCOLN — The debate and controversy over the Keystone XL pipeline officially returned to Nebraska on Thursday.

Canadian pipeline company TransCanada filed an application Thursday for a pipeline route through Nebraska, following the same route that state regulators had approved in 2013.

“Safety and a respect for the environment” will guide the company’s work, said Russ Girling, TransCanada’s president and chief executive officer.

The founder of Bold Nebraska, which led the opposition to the pipeline, pledged to again use protests and lawsuits to halt the project, first proposed nine years ago.

“Bold (Nebraska) continues to stand with farmers and ranchers to protect property rights from being infringed upon by a pipeline for their private gain,” said Jane Kleeb. “Keystone XL is and always will be all risk and no reward.”

The application by Trans­Canada sets up a review by the Nebraska Public Service Commission that may take up to a year.

While proponents tout the construction jobs and tax payments that will be generated by the project, critics say that much of the oil is destined for foreign countries and that few permanent jobs will be created in Nebraska.

The 36-inch pipeline would carry crude oil produced in Canada’s tar sands region to oil refineries on the Gulf Coast.

In 2015, President Barack Obama denied a permit for the project to cross the U.S. border, prompting TransCanada to withdraw its application for a 275-mile route across Nebraska.

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Post by Woodbutcher » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:12 pm

We just want to flush the dirty asphalt oil outta Canada. As soon as it crosses the border it's out of our hands....
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Post by Tero » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:02 pm

It wasn’t until Nebraska that I saw some resistance on grounds of environmentalism because of the Ogallala aquifer. They are reliant on it for drinking and irrigation, as they grow corn, which needs lots of water, and these Great Plains states don’t get a lot of rain. They are very afraid the pipeline will contaminate their precious source of water. So there were a lot of groups—not just environmentalists and progressives but a coalition of conservative and liberal forces—opposing this pipeline.

Soon after I entered Nebraska, I spoke with a woman at a library, who posted a little thing about my walk on Facebook. It took off with Keystone XL pipeline radicals, and soon enough I was being interviewed by local newspapers and TV. But the moment I walked across the border into Kansas, the light switch turned off. Within an hour, a guy pulls up and up-front asks, “What are you? A bum or a transient?” In Kansas, I was confronted by law enforcement 2-3 times a day. People were really suspicious and paranoid. I was no longer a champion of the environment. Now, I was an anonymous drifter.
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Post by Woodbutcher » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:39 pm

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It wasn’t until Nebraska that I saw some resistance on grounds of environmentalism because of the Ogallala aquifer. They are reliant on it for drinking and irrigation, as they grow corn, which needs lots of water, and these Great Plains states don’t get a lot of rain. They are very afraid the pipeline will contaminate their precious source of water. So there were a lot of groups—not just environmentalists and progressives but a coalition of conservative and liberal forces—opposing this pipeline.

Soon after I entered Nebraska, I spoke with a woman at a library, who posted a little thing about my walk on Facebook. It took off with Keystone XL pipeline radicals, and soon enough I was being interviewed by local newspapers and TV. But the moment I walked across the border into Kansas, the light switch turned off. Within an hour, a guy pulls up and up-front asks, “What are you? A bum or a transient?” In Kansas, I was confronted by law enforcement 2-3 times a day. People were really suspicious and paranoid. I was no longer a champion of the environment. Now, I was an anonymous drifter.
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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:28 pm

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“The dirty and dangerous Keystone XL pipeline is one of the worst deals imaginable for the American people, so of course Donald Trump supports it. This project has already been defeated, and it will be once again. The project faces a long fight ahead in the states," Sierra Club executive director Michael Brune said in a statement today. “We’re living in what feels to be the worst version of Groundhog Day imaginable, as every morning we’re waking up to yet another decision made by Trump that would be disastrous for our climate, our communities, and our health -- but Trump will not succeed."

“The State Department just sent a signal to the rest of the world that the United States government is moving backwards when it comes to climate and energy," according to a statement from Greenpeace USA executive director Annie Leonard. "The world simply cannot afford to transport or burn the Canadian tar sands if we hope to have any chance at avoiding catastrophic climate change. Keystone was stopped once before, and it will be stopped again.”
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Post by Animavore » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:39 pm

This, to repeat myself, is the worst thing about that dangerous idiot. It was the main argument I used well before he got elected. And every time I brought it up it was completely ignored by our local mouthpieces for Trump who went for soft targets like arguing the Dems are just as bad in whatever stupid thing the twit Tweeted or those stupid emails no one else cared about. They never tackled it because they couldn't, it was easier for them to pretend they didn't see them. It's probably the biggest example of the callousness of that lot that they'd elect someone this dangerous to the environment at this time in history just to see some "librul tears". A bunch of fucking I'm-alright-jacks who probably think the worst is going to happen to someone else.

I hope the Sierra Club are right and Chump loses as badly on the environment as he did on healthcare.
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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:44 pm

We have some hope here. Our republicam congressman represents rural folks and the pipe just does not fit into farm landscape. They would rather farm than wait for the pipe to crack and ruin crops.
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Post by Tero » Wed May 24, 2017 12:57 pm

Nebraska commission still to approve pipeline. They may demand it goes thru the Eastern right of way where the company has a 6 inch pipe for "real" oil
The route has the necessary permits in Montana and South Dakota, where activists are preparing to oppose the pipeline if construction goes ahead. The route is set to cross underneath dozens of rivers and streams, and under one of the world’s largest groundwater sources, the Ogallala aquifer, prompting serious concerns about the consequences of a major leak.

At the Fort Peck Indian reservation in north-east Montana, a new generation of activists who took part in the protests last year against the Dakota Access pipeline at the Standing Rock reservation worry that a leak on the proposed route across the Missouri river could contaminate the reserve’s water intake plant, about 40 miles downstream.

At the Cheyenne River reservation in South Dakota, where protest camps against the pipeline have already begun to populate, other activists expressed similar concerns about the potential of a leak underneath the Cheyenne river, which feeds the reservation’s water treatment plant. Activists also oppose the state’s newly passed senate bill 176, which curbs the right to assemble on public land in South Dakota and was passed, opponents say, in support of the Trump administration’s revival of the Keystone project.
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Post by laklak » Wed May 24, 2017 3:33 pm

Just wait till the price of gas goes back to $3.50 a gallon, and the rest of the country will shove the pipeline up Nebraska's ass. Nobody cares what happens in Nebraska as long as we can fill up our F-350 Duallys for $40.
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Re: Nebraska to resist pipeline route

Post by Tero » Wed May 24, 2017 3:58 pm

Do your research. None of this oil will end up in any cars or your boat. It's exported heavy crude.

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Post by Svartalf » Wed May 24, 2017 4:13 pm

What good is heavy crude good for anyway? making tarmac?
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Post by Svartalf » Wed May 24, 2017 4:49 pm

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Post by Feck » Wed May 24, 2017 5:13 pm

"Let them drink Evian " seems to be Trump's answer to pipelines fracking etc
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