The US Healthcare Mass Debate

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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:24 pm

You don't have to tell me. I get frustrated after a few seconds of that bullshit and I'll ignore it till I owe someone money on account of it. I absolutely hate trying to navigate any government resources. The first time I go to an office and they send me home because I don't have a third type of ID.... I'm done, even if it means my leg has to come off. --fuck you! :lol:
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Post by Tero » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:49 pm

Maybe the Govt should just contract out all these interfaces to the public to a private firm, and pay them whatever it costs to do it right. It’s just health care, not elections.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:19 pm

Or, we could kill ~300 million people, move those who remain into a handful of cities and become the pinnacle of civilization overnight.
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Post by Tero » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:29 pm

elsewhere:
Trump is half-German - not sure we should trust someone who comes from a Social Market Economy with single-payer healthcare.
Me: Trump has never promised any such thing. Neither has the GOP. if you pay 20 000 a year for insurance, they were going to give you 4000-5000 back. Provided you bought the insurance. Their credit was never going to be for paying healthcare directly.
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Post by Tero » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:27 pm

In the next 10 years rural Trump voters will lose all their hospitals
https://www.kios.org/post/economic-ripp ... t-retirees
Medicare for all would allow some controlof that.
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Post by Tero » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:34 am

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:30 pm

Meanwhile the colossal asshats Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows are trying to throw a spanner into the works of a Congressional investigation into drug pricing.

'Republicans Are Warning Drug Companies Not To Cooperate With A Congressional Investigation'
In an unusual move, House Republicans are warning drug companies against complying with a House investigation into drug prices.

Republicans on the House Oversight Committee sent letters to a dozen CEOs of major drug companies warning that information they provide to the committee could be leaked to the public by Democratic chair Elijah Cummings in an effort to tank their stock prices.

Cummings requested information from 12 drug companies such as Pfizer Inc., Johnson & Johnson, and Novartis AG in January as part of a broad investigation into how the industry sets prescription drug prices.

In their letters, Reps. Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows — leaders of the hardline conservative House Freedom Caucus — imply that Cummings may be attempting to collect the information in order to bring down the industry’s stock prices.

They write that Cummings is seeking sensitive information “that would likely harm the competitiveness of your company if disclosed publicly.” They then accuse Cummings of “releasing cherry-picked excerpts from a highly sensitive closed-door interview” conducted in an investigation into White House security clearances. “This is not the first time he has released sensitive information unilaterally,” says the letter. The authors say they “feel obliged to alert” the drug companies of Cummings’ actions.

Democrats expressed bafflement at the letters. While politicians routinely spar over committee work, warning companies not to comply with an investigation is unconventional — perhaps even unprecedented, Democrats say.

“Rep. Jordan is on the absolute wrong side here,” Cummings said in an emailed statement to BuzzFeed News. “He would rather protect drug company ‘stock prices’ than the interests of the American people.”

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:24 pm

Tero wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:13 pm
More on Arkansas

The state has removed more than 16,000 low-income adults for failing to log at least 80 hours of work, job training, volunteering or similar activity — including 4,655 in November.

Some of the people thrown off the program describe a nightmarish, confusing experience with clunky technology and no one to help them. Individuals who don't adhere to the new rules for three months get removed from Medicaid for the rest of the year.

“I have pre-existing conditions. But all they could tell me was, 'sorry, you didn’t comply,'” said Jamie Deyo, who lost coverage and suffers from rheumatoid arthritis and back problems stemming from a 2013 car accident. “It just was a slap in the face.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/ ... ge-1076876
The term "pre-existing conditions" is a rhetorical ruse that really shouldn't be indulged. What it means is simply "sick and/or disabled" doesn't it? How could it mean anything else? So now apply that straightforward term to the euphemistic declarations about "pre-existing conditions" from health insurers...
Health insurance policies are not designed to cover [people who are sick and/or disabled], or conditions that are related to [their sickness and/or disability], however under some circumstances it is possible that [people who are sick and/or disabled] can become covered - this is usually if the insurer believes it is no longer likely that the [sickness or disability] will return.

https://www.activequote.com/health-insu ... onditions/
When applying for private health insurance, any [sickness, disability] and health issues you've had in the past could potentially affect your coverage. ... In general most private medical insurance products exclude [people who are sick and/or disabled]. This is to help to create affordable health insurance: if [sick and/or disabled people] were not excluded there would be a higher number of claims making health insurance much more expensive.

https://www.freedomhealthinsurance.co.u ... conditions
[Sicknesses and/or disabilities] are any significant injuries or illnesses that you currently have, or have previously had before taking out your health insurance policy. ... The most typical option is for the insurance company to exclude [people who are sick and/or disabled] from the cover. This means they will not cover the cost of treatment for the [sickness and/or disability] or any related conditions.

https://www.pacificprime.com/health-ins ... -existing/
These where taken from the top three Google results for "medical insurance for pre-existing conditions'.

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Post by laklak » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:16 am

I'm loving me my Medicare. I got my monthly prescriptions filled, first time on the Medicare thingy. Paid - $0! Oooo Rah! Last month it cost me $52.

You gimme mo' free shit I vote for you. Word, homes.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:50 am

And you dont like socialism. :lol:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:30 am

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Post by Tero » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:10 am

laklak wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:16 am
I'm loving me my Medicare. I got my monthly prescriptions filled, first time on the Medicare thingy. Paid - $0! Oooo Rah! Last month it cost me $52.

You gimme mo' free shit I vote for you. Word, homes.
I didn't know they had medical marijuana in Florida! :ab:
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Post by laklak » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:57 pm

Yep!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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