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Post by Tero » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:56 pm

Democrats (Nancy) are actually not pushing ”medicare for all” other than the presidential candidates. They are pushing for Medicare ”just like now” which does not take it out of private insurance. They provide the supplement plan.

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"Everybody agrees that ObamaCare doesn't work. Premiums & deductibles are far too high - Really bad HealthCare! Even the Dems want to replace it, but with Medicare for all, which would cause 180 million Americans to lose their beloved private health insurance," Trump said on Twitter. There is no evidence that there is another health care reform proposal coming from the GOP.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:16 pm

Our healthcare is run by private insurance companies. Of course Trump does not realise that. Everything from Europe is socialist of course.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:05 pm

Maybe Democrats should revive the Javitz/Rockefeller Medicare for All Plan -- https://www.nytimes.com/1970/04/15/arch ... avits.html
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:06 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:16 pm
Our healthcare is run by private insurance companies. Of course Trump does not realise that. Everything from Europe is socialist of course.
Nobody cares what's going on in Dutch-land. It's inconsequential.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:08 pm

Tero wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:14 am
Americans Borrowed $88B to Pay for Health Care Last Year, Says Survey

https://www.thedailybeast.com/health-ca ... ays-survey
Let's have the Democrats come up with a plan that doesn't involve paying for things.
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Post by Animavore » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:58 am

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Looks like part of the problem is how the corporate media in the US frame tge issue.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:59 am

When I see all the appointments I have in the next six weeks and will cost me not a cent. Just FO 42. I thought Russia had a health care system anyway.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:08 am

The American health care system.
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Post by Tero » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:58 am

Yeah but freedom! Obama mandate to force BUYING of health insurance is unconstitutional!
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:00 pm

To be fair, Obama's ACA was shit. You guys need a single payer system like the rest of the civilised world.
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Post by Tero » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:23 pm

We have Medicare, under which you still buy additional insurance through the very same insurance companies that emploers sign up with. You would have to stop the employer provided plans to get so called Medicare for all. Without that the portion of people in Medicare is too small, and currently is old people and the poor under Medicaid.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:00 pm

Federal Resources

If you do not have private health insurance—or you need help because your insurance doesn’t pay for the HIV care and treatment you need—there are Federal resources that may help you.

Getting Help—Figuring out which programs and services you qualify for can be confusing. But don’t worry! There are case managers and benefits counselors who can help you. They know what services are available and can help you get care. Their services are free. You can find one near you by contacting a local HIV/AIDS service organization. Toll-free State HIV/AIDS Hotlines will help put you in touch with agencies that can determine what programs and services you may be eligible for and help you access them.

Here are Federal resources that are available:

Medicaid—A state and Federal partnership, Medicaid provides coverage for people with lower incomes, older people, people with disabilities, and some families and children. It is a critical source of coverage for many people living with HIV/AIDS. States establish and administer their own Medicaid programs and determine they type, amount, duration, and scope of services within broad federal guidelines. States are required to cover certain “mandatory benefits” and can choose to provide other “optional benefits,” including prescription drugs. The eligibility rules for Medicaid are different in each state, but most states offer coverage for adults with children at some income level. And, under the ACA, states have the option, which is fully Federally funded for the first three years, to expand Medicaid eligibility to generally include people below certain income levels, including low-income childless adults who were previously not generally eligible for Medicaid. As a result, in states that opt for Medicaid expansion, people living with HIV who meet the income threshold no longer have to wait for an AIDS diagnosis in order to become eligible for Medicaid. You can apply for and enroll in Medicaid at any time. There is no limited enrollment period. If you qualify, your coverage can begin immediately. Even if your state hasn’t expanded Medicaid, you should still apply for coverage to see if you qualify under your state’s existing rules. See if you qualify to save in your state..

The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program—The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program works with cities, states, and local community-based organizations to provide HIV-related services to more than half a million people living with HIV/AIDS each year. The program is for those who do not have sufficient healthcare coverage or financial resources to cope with HIV disease. Ryan White fills gaps in care not covered by these other sources. The program is divided into several “parts” to meet the needs of different communities and populations, and includes support for an AIDS Drug Assistance Program (ADAP). To find a Ryan White clinic near you, use the HIV.gov HIV Testing and Care Services Locator.

The Health Center Program— Health centers provide high quality preventive and primary health care services, including HIV testing and medical care, to patients regardless of their ability to pay. Some patients receive services directly at the health center itself, while others are referred to an HIV specialist in the community. Major investments in the network of community health centers over the past several years have created more opportunities for HIV care delivery. You can find a health center near you by going to the HIV Testing and Care Services Locator.

Medicare—Medicare is health insurance for people age 65 or older, people under 65 with certain disabilities, and people of all ages with End-Stage Renal Disease. Medicare coverage for eligible individuals includes outpatient care, prescription drugs, and inpatient hospital care. To learn more about Medicare coverage and choices, visit Medicare.gov.

Federal Programs for Women and Children—There are several Federal programs to help low-income women and children access health care. The Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) provides free or low-cost health insurance coverage for children up to age 19. Each state has its own rules about who qualifies for CHIP. You can apply for and enroll a child in CHIP at any time. There is no limited enrollment period. If the child qualifies, his/her coverage can begin immediately. Visit www.insurekidsnow.gov to learn more and see if you are eligible for coverage or call 1-877-KIDS-NOW (1-877-543-7669). In addition, programs supported by the Maternal and Child Health Services Block Grant, authorized by Title V of the Social Security Act (SSA), serve low-income women, children, and youth with limited access to health care, including children with special needs. Specifically, the Title V Maternal and Child Health program seeks to assure access to quality care, especially for those with low-incomes or limited availability of care.

American Indian and Alaska Native Programs—The Indian Health Service (IHS) provides health care services—including HIV services—for members and descendents of federally-recognized American Indian and Alaska Native Tribes. For more information, go to https://www.ihs.gov.

Veterans Programs—The Veterans Administration (VA) is the largest single provider of medical care to people living with HIV in the U.S., supporting over 24,000 Veterans living with HIV. If you are eligible, you may be able to receive HIV care through the Veterans Health Administration. VA offers an online benefits website where Veterans, Service Members, and their families can learn about their health care benefits.

Non-Federal Resources

Patient Assistance Programs (PAPs) are programs administered by pharmaceutical companies to offer free or reduced-cost antiretroviral (ARV) medicines to low-income people living with HIV who are uninsured or underinsured, and who do not qualify for assistance programs such as Medicaid, Medicare, or AIDS Drug Assistance Programs. Each pharmaceutical company has different eligibility criteria for qualifying for their PAP.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, seven pharmaceutical companies, the National Alliance of State and Territorial AIDS Directors (NASTAD), and community stakeholders worked together to develop a common patient assistance program application

(CPAPA) and companion document that can be used by patients and providers to access these programs.
A big problem is probably how difficult navigating these services can be for some people.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:09 pm

Of course there is also the problem of having a major disease and not doing anything about it. --shock horror! That's not blaming them btw, it can happen to any of us. It's just recognizing that it's possible to have a major problem and ignore it till it's too late. Or be unable to address it for some other reason like major depression. But what are you going to tell the nurse, that you've been dying for years but unable to do much about it because your head has caved in, or that you can't afford your meds?

I know, I know, a perfect system would save even those people! :sigh:
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Post by Tero » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:16 pm

The sign ups for Healthcare.gov can be complicated for people. And you basically have to get every thing perfect before you hit GO. I had to take me our of the plan and leave my wife in it. The insurance co will send us a new card for her. But because I was the one that signed us up for it, I got to make the changes.

The Medicare sign up directs you to the insurance company sites to finish your selection.
https://www.medicare.gov/sign-up-change ... ntage-plan
you get the card in the mail for Part A and Part B without doing anything.
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