The US Healthcare Mass Debate

[Brian Peacock]

McCain's Surgery Will Delay Senate Votes on Health Care Bill

are chips (fries) covered under the health care polices of the Senate?

Sure they're covered. Fully covered. Righr up to the point when you need them.

[Achtland]

this is hardly the place for that sort of satire
i was just making a (poor) joke about names of senaters and chip companys
and you reply with biting satire, shame on you
you just want socialism to run rampant in usa

[Achtland]

also think my joke was better
even if your makes more of a political point

[pErvinalia]

also think my joke was better
even if your makes more of a political point

I didn't get Brian's joke. I got yours.

[Achtland]

sorry for de-rail

usa needs better healthcare than ACA and not worse like trumpcare

[Brian Peacock]

also think my joke was better
even if your makes more of a political point

I didn't get Brian's joke.

Don't worry your pretty little head about it.

[JimC]

sorry for de-rail

usa needs better healthcare than ACA and not worse like trumpcare

Don't worry, de rail is all de rage here in Rationalia land...

[L'Emmerdeur]

The cat that was never really in the bag is now amongst the pigeons. (Pity the suffering of a mangled metaphor that'll never get proper attention, resulting in permanent disability.)

From the mouths of shitheels:

"Tom Price admits that the new Trumpcare is only repeal, no replace"

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised, over and over again, that he would replace Obamacare with “something terrific,” that would “take care of everybody” and be “a lot less expensive” for consumers and the government.

But despite claims by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) that his latest version of Trumpcare would provide “stability” while “improving affordability,” Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price made a major admission about the bill Sunday: that the legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare would simply permit insurers return to the ways they used to operate.

On ABC’s This Week, the longtime Obamacare critic was pressed by Jon Karl about a provision in the bill pushed by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), which would allow insurance companies to offer sub-standard plans. Karl noted that not only do more than 10 medical groups and 32 cancer organizations oppose the Trumpcare bill, “a rare joint statement by the biggest insurance companies in the country called the Cruz amendment ‘unworkable in any form’ [as] ‘it would lead to, ‘widespread terminations of coverage.”

Price responded that he found that wall of opposition “really perplexing, especially from the insurance companies, cause all they have to do is dust off how they did business before Obamacare.”

The administration had not previously admitted so clearly that this bill would mean a return to the pre-Obamacare days where insurers could deny customers coverage for pre-existing conditions, impose lifetime coverage caps, and force patients to pay out-of-pocket for essential care.

The article goes on to explain how the Cruz amendment will actually make things worse than the pre-ACA system for many people confronting an injury or sudden illness.

[Brian Peacock]

Cruz's wet dream come true. He'll be soooo happy: "A great success for America!"

[pErvinalia]

sorry for de-rail

usa needs better healthcare than ACA and not worse like trumpcare

Don't worry, de rail is all de rage here in Rationalia land...

It's de rigueur!

[JimC]

It's de duck's nuts!

[Tero]

Nobody knew complicated! Trump plus all!
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/1 ... use-240607

[Brian Peacock]

Just shows what we've known all along. Republican policy is predicated on what they oppose, not what they stand for. Any idiot with half a brain and an eye to the main chance can see it's easier to articulate the contrarian position than to actually have a positive thought of one's own. Senior Repubs have predicated their recent careers entirely on saying 'No' - it's a habit they just can't kick.

[Tero]

GOP Senate health bill just imploded. Voting on house bill but dated as repeal 2, years from now. Saving face vote.

This is what you get when GOP plans a bill that does something. They never build or spend on stuff we actually use. Their entire existense is based on repeal and don't replace.

[Brian Peacock]

Senate Republicans hold a bare 52-48 majority in the Senate and two members of the GOP caucus, the moderate Susan Collins of Maine and the libertarian Rand Paul of Kentucky, already opposed the bill, along with all 48 Democrats. The announcement from Moran and Lee made it impossible for Republicans to muster the 50 votes needed to bring the BCRA bill to the floor.

I wonder if the Koch brother's withdrawal of GOP financial support until theACA is repeal and top rates of tax are cut has anything to do with this? "If you won't pay, we won't play?"