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by Tero » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:34 am
Our libertarian/republican wing always brings up founding fathers and the Constitution when their rights are trampled on.
The case clearly has to do with Indian lands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Ac ... e_protests
Seth in our club thread
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=660
goes all tough shit. You can read it there, as I will not quote the club thread here. With his repetitive and wordy manner he will post it here anyway, unless Seth is thrown out again.
CANNON BALL, N.D. – Dakota Access oil pipeline protesters will not follow a government directive to leave the federal land where hundreds have camped for months, organizers said Saturday, despite state officials encouraging them to do so.
Standing Rock Sioux tribal leader Dave Archambault and other protest organizers confidently explained that they'll stay at the Oceti Sakowin camp and continue with nonviolent protests a day after Archambault received a letter from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that said all federal lands north of the Cannonball River will be closed to public access Dec. 5 for "safety concerns."
The Corps cited the oncoming winter and increasingly contentious clashes between protesters, who believe the pipeline could harm drinking water and Native American cultural sites, and police.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/27/pi ... -land.html
Standing Rock tribal members believe the land in which the encampment is on is owned by the Sioux through a more than century-old treaty with the U.S. government.
The treaty map is in the Wiki article
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by rainbow » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:39 am
...so if you had an Injun cook, would you call them a Sioux Chef?
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by Seth » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:58 pm
Tero wrote:Our libertarian/republican wing always brings up founding fathers and the Constitution when their rights are trampled on.
The case clearly has to do with Indian lands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Ac ... e_protests
Seth in our club thread
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=660
goes all tough shit. You can read it there, as I will not quote the club thread here. With his repetitive and wordy manner he will post it here anyway, unless Seth is thrown out again.
CANNON BALL, N.D. – Dakota Access oil pipeline protesters will not follow a government directive to leave the federal land where hundreds have camped for months, organizers said Saturday, despite state officials encouraging them to do so.
Standing Rock Sioux tribal leader Dave Archambault and other protest organizers confidently explained that they'll stay at the Oceti Sakowin camp and continue with nonviolent protests a day after Archambault received a letter from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that said all federal lands north of the Cannonball River will be closed to public access Dec. 5 for "safety concerns."
The Corps cited the oncoming winter and increasingly contentious clashes between protesters, who believe the pipeline could harm drinking water and Native American cultural sites, and police.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/27/pi ... -land.html
Standing Rock tribal members believe the land in which the encampment is on is owned by the Sioux through a more than century-old treaty with the U.S. government.
The treaty map is in the Wiki article
Treaties only exist as long as they are respected by the signatories, and once violated they are null and void. Pretty much all of the Indian tribes involved violated the Fort Laramie treaty shortly after it was signed by actions against the US, settlers and one another. So did the US. Thus, no treaty.
The Standing Rock Sioux didn't start making their ridiculous claims to territory outside their reservation until this pipeline issue came up. Too late. Too bad, so sad, they had their chance to adjudicate the Fort Laramie treaty over a hundred years ago, and during the scoping and planning process with the BLM and didn't. So whatever rights they think they have they lost because they sat on them until they evaporated.
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by Seth » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:16 pm
Tension is brewing within the
Dakota Access protest as complaints grow about outside activists trashing the camps, mooching off donations, and treating the anti-pipeline demonstration like a Burning Man-style festival for hippies.
Standing Rock Sioux chairman David Archambault II, who is leading the protest, raised concerns about sanitation in a Nov. 23 interview with Vice, saying activists are “digging pits out there for their human waste.” “That’s a flood zone,” said Mr. Archambault, referring to camps on federal land along the Cannonball River. “So when the floodwaters come up, that waste is going to be contaminating the water. We’re no different than the oil company, if we’re fighting for water. What’s going to happen when people leave? Who has to clean it up? Who has to refurbish it? It’s going to be us, the people who live here.”
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by Tero » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:21 am
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by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:22 am
Only when Marxists sabotage them with their Alinsky tactics.
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by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:39 am
Known unknowns, silly.
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by DaveDodo007 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:25 am
Tero wrote:Our libertarian/republican wing always brings up founding fathers and the Constitution when their rights are trampled on.
The case clearly has to do with Indian lands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Ac ... e_protests
Seth in our club thread
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=660
goes all tough shit. You can read it there, as I will not quote the club thread here. With his repetitive and wordy manner he will post it here anyway, unless Seth is thrown out again.
CANNON BALL, N.D. – Dakota Access oil pipeline protesters will not follow a government directive to leave the federal land where hundreds have camped for months, organizers said Saturday, despite state officials encouraging them to do so.
Standing Rock Sioux tribal leader Dave Archambault and other protest organizers confidently explained that they'll stay at the Oceti Sakowin camp and continue with nonviolent protests a day after Archambault received a letter from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that said all federal lands north of the Cannonball River will be closed to public access Dec. 5 for "safety concerns."
The Corps cited the oncoming winter and increasingly contentious clashes between protesters, who believe the pipeline could harm drinking water and Native American cultural sites, and police.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/27/pi ... -land.html
Standing Rock tribal members believe the land in which the encampment is on is owned by the Sioux through a more than century-old treaty with the U.S. government.
The treaty map is in the Wiki article
Where is John Wayne when you need him, he wouldn't have put up with any of this shit.
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by Tyrannical » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:02 am
Trump will bring in the national guard to have the rioters arrested for felony destruction of property, then he is going to have the FBI raid the "organizations" providing the funding and support to the rioters and charge them under the RICO act.
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by Tero » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:09 pm
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by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:54 am
Seth wrote:Tension is brewing within the
Dakota Access protest as complaints grow about outside activists trashing the camps, mooching off donations, and treating the anti-pipeline demonstration like a Burning Man-style festival for hippies.
Standing Rock Sioux chairman David Archambault II, who is leading the protest, raised concerns about sanitation in a Nov. 23 interview with Vice, saying activists are “digging pits out there for their human waste.” “That’s a flood zone,” said Mr. Archambault, referring to camps on federal land along the Cannonball River. “So when the floodwaters come up, that waste is going to be contaminating the water. We’re no different than the oil company, if we’re fighting for water. What’s going to happen when people leave? Who has to clean it up? Who has to refurbish it? It’s going to be us, the people who live here.”
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by Hermit » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:28 am
pErvin wrote:First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
Misattributed
Also, that chain of events is more likely to be the exception than the rule. Hopefully the protesters
will be able to stop the pipeline from crossing the Missouri. At least at that location. Seven other pipelines have crossed it elsewhere already.
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by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:26 am
Hermit wrote:pErvin wrote:First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
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Where am I supposed to be looking on that page?
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