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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:18 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:29 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:Red Dawn was a movie. It was only a movie.
Yeh, but impressionable people have trouble separating movies from real life.
Especially in the US.

That's why they want guns. They want to be like Clint, and big John.
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I don't live in your country. :dunno:
And that's why you will be dead, or enslaved and then dead.
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Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.
It's not about the addict, I don't care what you put in your body, it's about the murders to facilitate the manufacture, transport and distribution of the drugs that concerns me.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:53 pm

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I don't live in your country. :dunno:
And that's why you will be dead, or enslaved and then dead.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:38 pm

Slavery is a state of mind.
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Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.
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Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.
I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew. :tea:
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.
I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew. :tea:
First you have to find me, because I'm at liberty.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:52 am

Seth wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.
I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew. :tea:
First you have to find me, because I'm at liberty.
Oh. I thought you were giving me the choice. Typical capitalist bait-and-switch! :lay:
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Post by Blind groper » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:09 am

Spike Milligan said that every man willingly entered slavery, as long as he was paid enough.

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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:46 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.
I don't see how that addresses my point, which was that I don't think selling drugs should be a capital offense.
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Post by JimC » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:50 am

Thumpalumpacus wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thumpalumpacus wrote:I'm not really sure that selling drugs should be a capital offense. Me, I reckon if you buy and use those drugs, you own a little responsibility for yourself. It ain't like that drug lord is pushing the needle in at gunpoint.
The trouble with some kinds of drugs, like alcohol say, is that they are more than a little bit moreish. Get a taste for that kind of stuff and you can end up putting everything else in your life aside without even thinking about.
I don't see how that addresses my point, which was that I don't think selling drugs should be a capital offense.
The OP was about the escaped Mexican drug gang boss. From what I can gather, he murdered (and/or ordered murdered) quite a few people. Whether this should attract a death penalty is moot, but he did a lot more than just sell drugs.

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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:39 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Slavery is a state of mind.
Indeed. Give me liberty or give me death.
I'm out of liberty right now. But I'll gladly slip some arsenic in your stew. :tea:
and if you were his wife he would eat that stew with great relief :biggrin: :tea:
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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:58 pm

Seth wrote: It's not about the addict, I don't care what you put in your body, it's about the murders to facilitate the manufacture, transport and distribution of the drugs that concerns me.
Murder may or may not be a suitable justification for the death penalty, sure.

Me, I'd prefer jailing them in Supermax for the rest of their natural days ... "how the mighty have fallen" and all that.

Now, in the Mexican system, killing them is likely the safest bet for keeping them from killing more, but it's a kindness I don't think the state should extend, generally, given secure confinement.
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