UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
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UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
Is it the sesame oil and garlic that makes the difference?
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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
Yeh guess we don't have enough sociopaths to torture our animals to death ,and our government actually enforce the rule of law .




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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
I'm with FBM on this one, why do dogs get special treatment?
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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
I agree. I think the people who torture dogs or anything else to death should be treated the same way. I love animals and hate to see anything suffer.Feck wrote:Yeh guess we don't have enough sociopaths to torture our animals to death ,and our government actually enforce the rule of law .
But, like Paco, I don't see a good, objective, scientific reason to single out dogs as forbidden. They should just be treated humanely.
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
i have no objection to eating dog ,but do some research about how they are kept and how they are slaughtered !Paco wrote:I'm with FBM on this one, why do dogs get special treatment?
If you got caught treating animals like this in the western world you would be ,quite rightly labelled as a danger to the public.
It IS illegal in Korea ,It is not a part of their culture ,in the past dogs were only eaten during famines.
I think you must question the morality of torturing an animal before you kill it because you think the horrific pain makes the meat taste better .
Allow this and next you will be keeping bears in tiny cages and draining their gall bladders because you think it cures baldness .
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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
I have Lots of objections to eating dog. Living in Vietnam I eat all kind of weird stuff. From Cobra hearts to all kind of roasted pests. But eating dogs is a treason. Dogs didn't happen spontaneously and all about natural selection. They were handpicked to create eventually a wolf who would be intelligent, loyal to humans and affectionate. When I see them roasted in the restaurants or sold in the market I feel like we are committing the worst crime. Like we are eating our spiritual children as species.Feck wrote:i have no objection to eating dog ,but do some research about how they are kept and how they are slaughtered !Paco wrote:I'm with FBM on this one, why do dogs get special treatment?
If you got caught treating animals like this in the western world you would be ,quite rightly labelled as a danger to the public.
It IS illegal in Korea ,It is not a part of their culture ,in the past dogs were only eaten during famines.
I think you must question the morality of torturing an animal before you kill it because you think the horrific pain makes the meat taste better .
Allow this and next you will be keeping bears in tiny cages and draining their gall bladders because you think it cures baldness .
Oh hang on.....
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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
I refuse to be aggressive about my beliefs and preferences. I'll politely voice my opinions, if asked, about the unnecessary cruelty to animals and other issues, but I won't get into an argument about them, nor will I nurture a spirit of intolerance. I recognize others' right to make their own decisions based on their own values. "We've got a right to see it wrong if freedom's to survive." (OK, it's just from an old Steppenwolf song, but I like it.
) It doesn't bother me that others see things differently. Why would I expect things to be different? It's not like I consider myself to be omniscient or inerrant.
I disagree strongly with torturing dogs to death, so I don't torture dogs to death. I'm not on a Crusade over it. My present reality is that I'm in Korea, not the US or Europe or Oz. Some people eat dogs here. If I'm invited to dinner by friends or colleagues, and the majority want to eat dog, I eat dog. If I can politely persuade them to choose a different restaurant, I will. However, it's incumbent upon me to respect the culture of the country that I'm voluntarily living in; not to launch a crusade to convert it to Western values. Likewise, I would appreciate it if they didn't try to convert my home country to their values if they chose to live in the US. That's just basic mutual respect, tolerance and peaceful co-existence.

I disagree strongly with torturing dogs to death, so I don't torture dogs to death. I'm not on a Crusade over it. My present reality is that I'm in Korea, not the US or Europe or Oz. Some people eat dogs here. If I'm invited to dinner by friends or colleagues, and the majority want to eat dog, I eat dog. If I can politely persuade them to choose a different restaurant, I will. However, it's incumbent upon me to respect the culture of the country that I'm voluntarily living in; not to launch a crusade to convert it to Western values. Likewise, I would appreciate it if they didn't try to convert my home country to their values if they chose to live in the US. That's just basic mutual respect, tolerance and peaceful co-existence.
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"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
I'm not being aggressive about it .It is not a subject I bring up (and I do wonder why it does get mentioned so often) .I do reserve the right to comment on atrocity .
"It's their culture " is a crappy argument , Would you extend that to human rights ? Is it fine for there to be no more whales,or rhino or tigers because some one claims it is their cultural right to kill them ?
"It's their culture " is a crappy argument , Would you extend that to human rights ? Is it fine for there to be no more whales,or rhino or tigers because some one claims it is their cultural right to kill them ?




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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
Well isn't it?Feck wrote:"It's their culture " is a crappy argument , Would you extend that to human rights ? Is it fine for there to be no more whales,or rhino or tigers because some one claims it is their cultural right to kill them ?
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I don't think so ! esp as so many things that are labelled that way really aren't ,Japanese Whaling ships , Rhino horn, Tiger 'medicine' .Should we accept slavery (in all it's forms) because at one point in history it was our culture ?leo-rcc wrote:Well isn't it?Feck wrote:"It's their culture " is a crappy argument , Would you extend that to human rights ? Is it fine for there to be no more whales,or rhino or tigers because some one claims it is their cultural right to kill them ?
What is sacred about culture anyway ? It does not trump every other consideration .




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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
Do lions have the 'right' to hunt gazelle to extinction?
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
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Re: UK, you're doing it wrong. This would never happen in Asia..
See but this is where I have a problem with that kind of reasoning. You are making a value judgment on a culture that you are not a part of with the standards of a culture you are a part of. And then you put your standards above those of them who are in agreement with the practices of that culture.Feck wrote:I don't think so ! esp as so many things that are labelled that way really aren't ,Japanese Whaling ships , Rhino horn, Tiger 'medicine' .Should we accept slavery (in all it's forms) because at one point in history it was our culture ?leo-rcc wrote:Well isn't it?Feck wrote:"It's their culture " is a crappy argument , Would you extend that to human rights ? Is it fine for there to be no more whales,or rhino or tigers because some one claims it is their cultural right to kill them ?
What is sacred about culture anyway ? It does not trump every other consideration .
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