White on White Crime

[Robert_S]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/57501 ... n-is-tired

White America, It's Your Turn to Talk About Race, This Black Woman is Tired


When it comes to black-on-black crime, the question no one ever asks is: Don't white people kill each other too? Indeed, they do. But white people don't talk about it, and it's time they start. Based on statistics from the Justice Department, white men are more likely to commit murder than any other racial group. When it comes to how and why people kill, black men outnumber whites in gun homicides, but especially drug-related offenses. Yet white men top the list in most all other categories.

The Justice Department collected homicidal rates from 1980 – 2008 and found that when comparing white to black crime, whites were more likely to kill children, the elderly, family members, and their significant others. They commit more sex-related crimes, gang-related crimes, are more likely to kill in the workplace, and to kill multiple victims at once. Whites are more likely to burn you to death or poison you.

And that’s just the percentage. The real numbers are even starker if you consider that of the 314 million people living in the United States today, 78% of them are white. That’s almost the entire country. Only 13% are black. That’s not to mention that white-on-white crime is just as prevalent as black-on-black crime. The Justice Department in fact found that homicides are more often intraracial than anything else.

Is it because one in 15 black men are in prison? That answer isn’t good enough. The racial biases in the War on Drugs contributes to the high incarceration rates. Blacks are no more likely than whites to use or sell drugs. They actually make up only 14% of regular drug users. Yet blacks are more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and receive sentences 10% longer than whites when indicted.

Are we going to blame hip-hop music and rappers for toting guns, then? If so, how do we explain why a white man holding a pistol symbolizes an evocation of the second Amendment and why when a black man does so, he is a criminal or a gangster?


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[Warren Dew]

That's not what the statistics say. There are many times more white men, but they commit only about the same absolute number of crimes as blacks, meaning that they actually commit crimes at a much lower rate. She's getting confused about rates versus actual numbers.

[Robert_S]

[laklak]

13% of the population commits 52.5% of all homicides, while 78% of the population commits 45.3%? This is supposed to show, well, what, exactly?

[Warren Dew]

13% of the population commits 52.5% of all homicides, while 78% of the population commits 45.3%? This is supposed to show, well, what, exactly?

I assume he's supporting my post about the errors made by the author of his quoted material.

[Robert_S]

13% of the population commits 52.5% of all homicides, while 78% of the population commits 45.3%? This is supposed to show, well, what, exactly?

I assume he's supporting my post about the errors made by the author of his quoted material.

They were in the article, so I posted them.

[Tero]

Seems to be an overproduction of criminal black males. Housing them in prison can't be very productive.

[Cormac]

1. Black people seem to have better family values.
2. I don't want to work with a white guy in the USA!

[Robert_S]

1. Black people seem to have better family values.
2. I don't want to work with a white guy in the USA!

And for sure don't leave a white guy alone with your food!

[Warren Dew]

2. I don't want to work with a white guy in the USA!

Blacks still perpetrate workplace homicide at twice the rate of whites, but the whites make up for it by killing more than twice as many people per incident!

[Animavore]

Why do Americans feel they have to divide everyone into races?

[Robert_S]

Why do Americans feel they have to divide everyone into races?

I don't know. Some tradition from the English we haven't quite gotten over?

But ignoring race ends up being a convenient way of ignoring racism.

[Audley Strange]

I don't see how that follows Robert. Surely the entire point of racism is a belief in superiority and inferiority and thus the racist would be obsessed with such. It would be interesting to see, for example, the economic groups these murders came from.

The suggestion of looking at white on white crime though seems to come at a moment in which the suggestion feels diversionary in light of the recent Martin/Zimmerman thing in which some tough questions were directed at the black community. Now I'm not going to say whether such diversion is justified or not, but it does seem like, to this outsider that at this point the only issue is when race places a factor, whether it be black on white crime, vice versa.

Y'see I'm willing to bet that America is pretty post racial, but that the Racists on all sides have a vested interest in making every single black/white crime a national issue on race because really, they need to keep themselves in work. I'm also willing to bet that the differences in economic status between the majority of black and white and most other criminals is negligible.

[fishie]

Why do Americans feel they have to divide everyone into races?

I'm with you on this one SAFTOIGU

[Robert_S]

Y'see I'm willing to bet that America is pretty post racial, but that the Racists on all sides have a vested interest in making every single black/white crime a national issue on race because really, they need to keep themselves in work. I'm also willing to bet that the differences in economic status between the majority of black and white and most other criminals is negligible.

i don't think we're quite post-racial yet. There are still color lines. They're a lot more permeable than they were, but they exist. Even crime falls within color lines.

If violent crime follows economic indicators, that would explain the racial differences in crime, but still leave racial differences in economics to be addressed.

I don't know of any issue without its grandstanders off the top of my head. But their presence only means there is a potential audience.