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Space Station Leaking Vital Coolant

Post by cronus » Fri May 10, 2013 8:32 am

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Space Station Leaking Vital Coolant, says NASA

Astronauts on the International Space Station have discovered a leak of ammonia coolant on their orbiting habitat, and NASA is looking into the problem, though it poses no immediate danger to the crew, officials said today (May 9).

The space station uses chilled liquid ammonia to cool down the power systems on its eight giant solar array panels. A minor leak of this ammonia was first noticed in 2007, and NASA has been studying the issue ever since. In November 2012 two astronauts took a spacewalk to fix the problem, rewiring some coolant lines and installing a spare radiator due to fears the original radiator was damaged by a micrometeorite impact.

At the time, those measures appeared to fix the problem, but today astronauts on the football field-size space station noticed a steady stream of frozen ammonia flakes leaking from the area of the suspect coolant loop in the Photovoltaic Thermal Control System (PVTCS).

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Post by mistermack » Fri May 10, 2013 2:12 pm

Might be the first instance of real damage done by space junk.
The first of many.
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Post by cronus » Fri May 10, 2013 2:24 pm

mistermack wrote:Might be the first instance of real damage done by space junk.
The first of many.
I've a feeling they won't come down alive. It's only a feeling. I've been right before though. :coffee:
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Post by mistermack » Fri May 10, 2013 4:28 pm

Scrumple wrote:
mistermack wrote:Might be the first instance of real damage done by space junk.
The first of many.
I've a feeling they won't come down alive. It's only a feeling. I've been right before though. :coffee:
Everyone's been right before. That's really not very impressive. Can you score over 50% ?
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Post by cronus » Fri May 10, 2013 4:29 pm

mistermack wrote:
Scrumple wrote:
mistermack wrote:Might be the first instance of real damage done by space junk.
The first of many.
I've a feeling they won't come down alive. It's only a feeling. I've been right before though. :coffee:
Everyone's been right before. That's really not very impressive. Can you score over 50% ?
I'm not a doctor, Jim. :coffee:
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Post by Jason » Fri May 10, 2013 5:59 pm

Who designed a system where a simple leak can be studied for 5-6 years and still not be fixed? Didn't they think to place pressure sensors or something at regular intervals in the circuit? You know.. that way they could tell where the pressure is dropping (the gas is leaking) and repair it?

..derp

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Post by cronus » Fri May 10, 2013 8:12 pm

Făkünamę wrote:Who designed a system where a simple leak can be studied for 5-6 years and still not be fixed? Didn't they think to place pressure sensors or something at regular intervals in the circuit? You know.. that way they could tell where the pressure is dropping (the gas is leaking) and repair it?

..derp
A small powered drone with sealant is ideal for leaks of all kinds. They must have trouble with finances not to be able to afford a football with eight mini thrusters some small remote cameras and a tube of sealant.
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Post by JimC » Sat May 11, 2013 10:07 am

Scrumple wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:Who designed a system where a simple leak can be studied for 5-6 years and still not be fixed? Didn't they think to place pressure sensors or something at regular intervals in the circuit? You know.. that way they could tell where the pressure is dropping (the gas is leaking) and repair it?

..derp
A small powered drone with sealant is ideal for leaks of all kinds. They must have trouble with finances not to be able to afford a football with eight mini thrusters some small remote cameras and a tube of sealant.
Its programming would soon screw up, and it would randomly be squirting sealant over any external bit of the station that took its fancy...

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Need to mount lasers on independent mobile units that will scan the routes of approach for incoming junk.
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Post by JimC » Sat May 11, 2013 10:11 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Need to mount lasers on independent mobile units that will scan the routes of approach for incoming junk.
Which will undoubtedly screw up, and fry all incoming spacecraft...

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 11, 2013 10:13 am

JimC wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Need to mount lasers on independent mobile units that will scan the routes of approach for incoming junk.
Which will undoubtedly screw up, and fry all incoming spacecraft...

(see my previous post...)
Independent mobile units with heavy armament running around space. What could possibly go wrong?
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Post by JimC » Sat May 11, 2013 10:17 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
JimC wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Need to mount lasers on independent mobile units that will scan the routes of approach for incoming junk.
Which will undoubtedly screw up, and fry all incoming spacecraft...

(see my previous post...)
Independent mobile units with heavy armament running around space. What could possibly go wrong?
Have them all controlled by a super-advanced computer, programmed with all of human knowledge...

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Post by mistermack » Sat May 11, 2013 12:00 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Need to mount lasers on independent mobile units that will scan the routes of approach for incoming junk.
Don't think heating something with a laser would nullify the threat. Break it up, and you just have multiple threats. Unless you can get the parts down to a size that poses no threat. But that would have to be finer than dust. And radar can't detect stuff smaller than finger-size anyway, so there is actually no way of making a satellite safe.

A grain of salt could do real damage, but there is no way of detecting that, in time to zap it, anyway.
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Post by FBM » Sat May 11, 2013 12:06 pm

It's coming down, I say. And when it does, all those secret nukes and biological agents that they've really been working on all this time will kill us all!
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