Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

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Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by cronus » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:29 pm

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:54 pm

Reminds me a lot of areas around Chernobyl.

...Hasn't Detroit always been a bit of a shit-hole, though? :ask:
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Post by Jason » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:18 pm

It used to be a bustling modern metropolis in the glory days of American automobile manufacturing, but following the oil crisis of the 1970s it's really gone to shit. It has been improving somewhat in recent years.

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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:10 pm

I heard that GM got a bale-out grant from the gummint and then out-sourced all the jobs.
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Post by JimC » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:32 am

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Audley Strange » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:40 am

Yes. Eventually there will be no need for cities at all and we will all live in endless suburbia. close to the omni-distribution centres where we all work part-time, maintaining robots or delivering crap to each other.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by mistermack » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:50 am

Fuck fuck fuck, what a waste !! I can understand the odd building standing idle for a while, but not that.

In Britain, every square inch is fought over.

Have a look at this, as the other extreme :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/ju ... perty-sale
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:54 am

Well, there's no reason to be in Michigan at all, so being in a dead town just ain't attractive.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:58 am

The only reason to be in MI recently moved to Boston.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by mistermack » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:59 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Well, there's no reason to be in Michigan at all, so being in a dead town just ain't attractive.
Yeh but, what has Chicago got, that Detroit hasn't? My cousins live in Chicago, and I've never heard of anything like that where they live.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:11 am

mistermack wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Well, there's no reason to be in Michigan at all, so being in a dead town just ain't attractive.
Yeh but, what has Chicago got, that Detroit hasn't? My cousins live in Chicago, and I've never heard of anything like that where they live.
Detroit was a monoculture, so when the reason died, so did the city. Chicago is diverse, and also the largest city in the central US.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by mistermack » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:20 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Detroit was a monoculture, so when the reason died, so did the city. Chicago is diverse, and also the largest city in the central US.
That doesn't explain why a place with cheap property, lots of labour looking for work, and free access to the US market, can't attract business.
Not everybody trades within a few blocks of their HQ. these days. Just because Detroit is suffering, that doesn't stop businesses snapping up all this cheap infrastructure.

The Germans are paying millions, for buildings like that. And still selling stuff all round the USA.
Detroit has huge advantages over Dortmund. Cheap labour, cheap property, and cheap shipping to the USA.

Something's wrong with capitalism here, if it can't adjust to conditions.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:25 am

Well, the infrastructure was shit before the bubble burst, so it's not an attractive place to locate a business.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:33 am

Făkünamę wrote:It used to be a bustling modern metropolis in the glory days of American automobile manufacturing, but following the oil crisis of the 1970s it's really gone to shit. It has been improving somewhat in recent years.
It improved from about 1994 to about 2004, then it all started crumbling again. The place is a dump.

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:35 am

Audley Strange wrote:Yes. Eventually there will be no need for cities at all and we will all live in endless suburbia. close to the omni-distribution centres where we all work part-time, maintaining robots or delivering crap to each other.
The socialist's dream. Evenly distribute the population to eliminate the distinction between cities and the countryside. It's one of the pillars of Marxist socialism.

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