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Not Gay! Ex-Gay, Post-Gay and Proud

Post by cronus » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:51 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21634006

'Ex-gay' London bus advert 'like a slap in the face'

A proposed advertisement by a Christian group stopped from running on London's buses was like a "slap in the face" to an anti-bullying message from gay charity Stonewall, a court has heard.

Transport for London said it halted the Core Issues Trust's "ex-gay" advert as it could cause "widespread offence".

It said there was a "storm of protest" as people became aware of the advert.

TfL told the High Court the mayor was aware but denied he influenced the decision, weeks before an election.

The advert, which was to read "Not Gay! Ex-Gay, Post-Gay and Proud. Get over it!" was also paid for by Christian group Anglican Mainstream.

Dr Michael Davidson, co-director of the Core Issues Trust, is asking the court for permission to have a judicial review against TfL's decision to ban the adverts.

(continued, some buses are gay? and some are both way returns?)
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Re: Not Gay! Ex-Gay, Post-Gay and Proud

Post by Jason » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:01 pm

I will never look at a double-decker the same way again.

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Post by MiM » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:09 pm

"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."
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Post by SteveB » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:10 pm

MiM wrote:"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."
:dunno:

Thar be a false equivalency.
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Post by MiM » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:15 pm

but still enough of a likeness, for it to require some explanation :ask:
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Post by Tero » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:16 pm

Ex-gay Christian. Like Ted Haggard.

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Post by SteveB » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:21 pm

MiM wrote:but still enough of a likeness, for it to require some explanation :ask:
One is prejudicial and the other isn't. One's targeting something you're born with and the other isn't.
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Post by SteveB » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:22 pm

Maybe it's Maybelline.
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Post by MiM » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:31 pm

SteveB wrote:
MiM wrote:but still enough of a likeness, for it to require some explanation :ask:
One is prejudicial and the other isn't. One's targeting something you're born with and the other isn't.
that's not how they see it.
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Post by SteveB » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:32 pm

But that's how it is. Truth doesn't suddenly disappear when you stop believing it.
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Post by Rum » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:34 pm

'Anglican Mainstream' have hijacked the word 'mainstream'. It appears to represent the evangelical side of Chritinsanity.

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Post by MiM » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:46 pm

SteveB wrote:But that's how it is. Truth doesn't suddenly disappear when you stop believing it.
Actually the "stop worrying" is also prejudicial, admit to a lesser degree than the outright offensive "get over it"
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Post by JimC » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:36 pm

Rum wrote:'Anglican Mainstream' have hijacked the word 'mainstream'. It appears to represent the evangelical side of Chritinsanity.
Exactly.

Truly mainstream Anglicanism would offer gays a cup of tea, and ask if they'd help set up the cake stall for the next church fete...
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Post by Azathoth » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:09 pm

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Post by Blind groper » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:02 pm

It seems very clear from the numerous scientific studies on the subject, that being gay is not a choice. it is something people are born with. Since it is imposed, it cannot be called a 'sin', or a crime. Those who rail against the behavior of gays are simply bigoted.

It also casts deep suspicion on those who claim to have been gay and have changed. Either they were not gay to begin with, or they are still gay and pretending otherwise. Or maybe they are bisexual, and decided for reasons of expedience, to ignore their gay tendencies and concentrate on the other gender. I do not think there is any evidence that it is possible to consciously change sexual orientation.
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