Petreausgate

[Coito ergo sum]

So, what's the deal? Is this much ado about a General boinking his biographer, and maybe his friend's wife to boot?

Or, is this a smokescreen for something bigger?

I heard Maddow last night try to blame the Republicans for this. She has a convoluted theory that there was nothing "criminal" with what Petreaus did, and it was an investigation prompted by leading Republicans for some reason, although it would never normally have been reported to anyone because there is nothing criminal involved.

The "unpaid social coordinator" who is the "other other woman" lives locally to MacDill in Tampa, and man do they have a nice place on Bayshore -- fuck that's some moneyed real estate right there. Broadwell, the "other woman" seemed to think that Kelley "the other other woman" was involved with Petreaus, and she was warning her off with anonymous emails. The emails were not threatening, but were creepy and anonymous - although they would never get FBI attention normally, apparently, Kelley (the other other woman) had a friend in the FBI tampa office who was able to open an investigation, and they found Broadwell out. Then the shit hit the fan. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mself.html

I don't get it -- the wife of a Tampa doctor, unpaid "social liaison?" What the fuck is that? Why her? Something is fishy there: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ffair.html Who do they know, and what other benefits are they receiving -- there must be something there. I can smell it.

Broadwell, the mistress, was supposedly the "biographer" of Petraeus' biography. But, she really didn't write it. She just supplied information to the writer that she researched by "interviewing" Petreaus. http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle ... story.html Broadwell apparently had a history with Petraeus, and for some reason he appointed her his biographer, and then the actual writer gets a "with" credit on the book.

The FBI agent that the other other woman, Ms. Kelley, the "unpaid liaison", first reported the anonymous Broadwell emails to -- he's now been banned from the case for becoming "obsessed" with it, and he himself -- the FBI agent - started sending "shirtless" pictures of himself to Ms. Kelley: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... TopStories

Months of investigations were going on without a single leak. It was all held until after the election.

ABC news article on the criminal investigation: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-deem ... KJsOoc8CSp

Paula Broadwell questioned who Ms. Kelley thought she was, strutting around the base -- I think that's a fair question, actually.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ealed.html

The Kelley's have some money -- but, I have to question what they're getting out of this "unpaid social liaison" thing.... http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/201 ... ciety.html

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fux News was busy mythmaking Sunday morning. Bullshit, as usual.

[Coito ergo sum]

Fux News was busy mythmaking Sunday morning. Bullshit, as usual.

What myth?

[fretmeister]

Personally I like spies who are competent at lying and cheating.

[Coito ergo sum]

Anyone know what this "Unpaid Social Liaison" position is?

This is weird. It sounds to me like a work-around to get someone clearance to come and go on the base.

The way MacDill works, probably much like other military bases I suspect, is that you can't just go there. You have to have a reason to go there and be cleared/screened, or you have to be issued an ID that gets you on the base when you want to go there.

I've been on the base, and we had to actually hand over our drivers licenses and get them back when we left. It was with a group, and we had military personnel around us all the time. It wasn't intimidating surveillance, but I am positive that we would not be permitted to stray far on our own.

So, my guess is they created an unpaid position, cleared this lady and issued her an ID so she didn't have to sign in as someone's guest every time and go through the normal clearance process every time she wanted to come on base.

I'd love to know what specific things she did to "liaise." Something is fishy there. What other "unpaid" positions do they have there?

[Coito ergo sum]

While affairs may be commonplace in Washington, when they involve the director of the CIA, things can take on a different tone.
Analysts say there is no evidence that a security breach occurred as a result of the affair, but that hasn't stopped discussion that Broadwell could have gained access to classified information as a result of what she has routinely described as "unprecedented access" to Petraeus.
That discussion seemed to gain momentum Monday thanks to comments Broadwell made in a speech last month at the University of Denver.
"I don't know if a lot of you have heard this, but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to get these prisoners back," Broadwell said.
A senior intelligence official told CNN on Monday, "These detention claims are categorically not true. Nobody was ever held at the annex before, during, or after the attacks."

The New York Times also reported Sunday that investigators found classified documents on Broadwell's laptop computer. The newspaper cited investigators as saying Petraeus denied he had given them to her.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/petrae ... index.html

CNN's chronology: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/politics/ ... index.html

[Coito ergo sum]

He says it's not unusual for South Tampa socialites like the Kelleys to hang around leaders at MacDill, and that brings us back to the "unpaid social liaison" role.

Several calls to the public affairs offices at MacDill, Central Command, Special Operations Command and even the Department of Defense did not yield an answer. It is believed Kelley worked with those who work at "Coalition Village" at MacDill, an area on base where foreign workers come to assist in the war on terror. It's not clear yet what role she may have played.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2007 ... ill-kelley

Well, this about seals it for me. You can't even find out what this social liaison position is by calling MacDill itself? They won't answer?

It is "believed" she worked with those who work at "Coalition Village." Yeah, right. Worked? Worked at doing what, exactly? Host parties? What the fuck is this shit?

There's really only one possibility. High ranking officials at MacDill are allowed to designate their friends as "liaisons" to issue them security clearance to get on and off the base for no good reason. Another giant waste of time and money.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Only one possibility you can imagine, anyway. You should be a stringer for Fux News.

[Gerald McGrew]

So, what's the deal? Is this much ado about a General boinking his biographer, and maybe his friend's wife to boot?

Or, is this a smokescreen for something bigger?

Thank you Glen Beck for "just asking questions". Yesterday he was saying that this was the next step in the communist takeover of our country ("You have to discredit the military").

I heard Maddow last night try to blame the Republicans for this. She has a convoluted theory that there was nothing "criminal" with what Petreaus did, and it was an investigation prompted by leading Republicans for some reason, although it would never normally have been reported to anyone because there is nothing criminal involved.

From what I just watched, she asked Andrea Mitchell why both Democrat and Republican congressmen were complaining about not being briefed when all indications were that it was a "private matter" (an affair). Mitchell responded that because of Petraeus' position, there was the potential for a national security breach and Maddow seemed to agree.

Months of investigations were going on without a single leak. It was all held until after the election.

We now know that Eric Cantor knew of the investigation prior to the election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... ll-affair/

[Coito ergo sum]

Only one possibility you can imagine, anyway. You should be a stringer for Fux News.

What have I posted that is wrong? None of it was from FoxSnooze. I've been posting from CNN and other such news sources.

What news source do you recommend?

And, if you know what an "unpaid social liaison" does there, then post it. I really don't know, but I was looking for information on it, and I found what I could find. If there is some purpose I'm missing, just post it. Or, you can just keep up posting irrelevant nonsense and dismissing the entire store as manufactured by Foxsnooze, despite not one reference or link to Foxsnooze being posted here....

[laklak]

"Unpaid social liaison". Sounds like a euphemism to me. Bimbo, maybe?

[Tero]

A four star general is allowed one wife, one mistress and two hookers in any calendar year. That's what the 4 stars mean.

[HomerJay]

"Unpaid social liaison". Sounds like a euphemism to me. Bimbo, maybe?

Good time girl?

[Coito ergo sum]

So, what's the deal? Is this much ado about a General boinking his biographer, and maybe his friend's wife to boot?

Or, is this a smokescreen for something bigger?

Thank you Glen Beck for "just asking questions". Yesterday he was saying that this was the next step in the communist takeover of our country ("You have to discredit the military").

It's front page news on the New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/ - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/us/to ... al.html?hp

And, i've not asked any different question. The first question is "what's the deal? Is this much ado about ..." nothing? Or, is it something bigger?

This is front page news on the BBC also -- http://www.bbc.com/news/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20308225

Does Glen Beck run the New York Times and the BBC, and they're now "just asking the question?"

It is also front page news on cnn.com, abcnews.com, nbcnews.com -- it's front page at the Toronto Globe and Mail -- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/

All of them are "asking the question" too.

I heard Maddow last night try to blame the Republicans for this. She has a convoluted theory that there was nothing "criminal" with what Petreaus did, and it was an investigation prompted by leading Republicans for some reason, although it would never normally have been reported to anyone because there is nothing criminal involved.

From what I just watched, she asked Andrea Mitchell why both Democrat and Republican congressmen were complaining about not being briefed when all indications were that it was a "private matter" (an affair). Mitchell responded that because of Petraeus' position, there was the potential for a national security breach and Maddow seemed to agree.

I was referring to what she said last night. If she's "asking the question", though, she must be being all "Glen Beckish" though.

Months of investigations were going on without a single leak. It was all held until after the election.

We now know that Eric Cantor knew of the investigation prior to the election.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... ll-affair/

Right, and if you read the article, which you probably didn't, he spoke to one FBI agent who was not speaking "officially" and was only informally telling Cantor something. "...given that it was a single source whom he had never met, he did not believe there was a need to pass the information on to his fellow House leaders." Cantor wasn't privy to the status of or the details of the investigation, and so he wouldn't be expected to make anything public. He reported the communication he received from the FBI agent to the head of the FBI, Mueller. My links above show this as part of the chronology. Nothing went public, until after the election. That's just a fact. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with that, but it also isn't necessarily right either. And, the timing of the release of this information and his resignation are interesting in light of the fact that he was going to testify.

I've not rendered any judgment here.

Naturally, of course, you come here and the first thing you want to do is criticize the fact that the issue is even being discussed at all. You liken it to a Glen Beck conspiracy theory. It shows how ridiculous you are. A story that is universally deemed newsworthy, and is dominating the front page of every major, mainstream and nonmainstream news source, as matters develop, and you want to pretend that it is some sort of "Glen Beck-The-Progressive-100-Year-Plan-to-Dominate-America" nonsense.

What is so wrong with following this issue anyway? What rubs you the wrong way about this? Do you have a vested interest in the reputation of General Petreaus? Is there something you're worried about?

[Coito ergo sum]

"Unpaid social liaison". Sounds like a euphemism to me. Bimbo, maybe?

Gotta stop you right there Laklak. It has been brought to my attention that FoxNews is making this all up, and the only people inquiring about it are Glen Beck-ites. So, nothing to see here...just move along...