Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

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Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:02 pm

(Reuters) - Egyptian protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy on Tuesday, tore down the American flag and burned it during a protest over what they said was a film being produced in the United States that insulted Prophet Mohammad.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/ ... 1?irpc=932
U.S. Embassy 'Condemns the Continuing Efforts by Misguided Individuals to Hurt the Religious Feelings of Muslims'
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/us- ... 52183.html

Wow.... just fucking....wow...

Err... you're apologizing to violent mobs for someone making an allegedly insulting film?

The US Embassy's response is shameful. That's the State Department for ya! Nice job. :banghead:
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Post by Rum » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:17 pm

Luckily they enjoy fighting amongst themselves almost as much as they do us..

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Post by Gerald McGrew » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:22 pm

Two sides of the same idiotic coin...Pastor Jones staging yet another attention-grabbing stunt, and Islamists reacting like 3 year-olds to it.

Too bad the State Dept. couldn't just say, "Will all of you just grow the fuck up?"
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Post by Ian » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:42 pm

Gerald McGrew wrote: Too bad the State Dept. couldn't just say, "Will all of you just grow the fuck up?"
They could, but then they wouldn't be the State Dept.

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Post by HomerJay » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:21 am

A US official has been killed and others wounded after militiamen stormed the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi, security officials say.

It is believed the protest was held over a US-produced film that is said to be insulting to the Prophet Muhammad.

The building is said to have burnt down after being set alight by protesters. It is thought nobody was in the consulate at the time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19562692

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:10 pm

This film is a pretext. Nobody over there would have heard about that film if it wasn't for leaders there whipping people up into a frenzy with it.

There is another purpose for this besides venting anger at anti-Islamic films. This is political.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:22 pm

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned the attack “in the strongest terms,” adding that while the United States “deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others … there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.” Wednesday morning, Obama released his own statement condemning “the outrageous attack.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ele ... sgraceful/

I don't deplore any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.

The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins
God is Not Great, Christopher Hitchens
The End of Faith. Sam Harris
Religulous. by Bill Maher
Why I Am Not A Christian, by Bertrand Russell
Fitna, Geert Wilders
Every speech by Robert G. Ingersoll, the greatest of all agnostics.

All of them in some way intentionally denigrate religious beliefs.

I condemn the condemnation of the denigration of religious beliefs. This is particular true where, as here, we haven't even seen the damn film. How do we even know it is insulting? How do they even know?

Fuck them. If we are in the US and an amateur filmaker can't make a film denigrating Islam without them attacking our consular offices, then something has to change over there, not here. They are wrong. We are in the right. The filmmaker is in the right. No apologies should be or should have been offered. No deploring of the denigration of religion, please. It only emboldens the assholes over there.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Reasons? -really? I just assume these guys walk around waiting for permission to destroy things.
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:13 pm

Just goes to show you that Muslims are ignorant barbarians.

I want to know where the U.S. Marines security detachment was and why they didn't blow those ignorant fuckwits to hell.

Seems like Obama doesn't assign a Marine security detail to consulates, only to embassies.

Time to paradrop the Marines and SEALS into Libya to protect our consulate and kill the terrorist fuckers who killed our Ambassador, since it's pretty clear that Libya's government isn't going to do it.
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Post by Rum » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:16 pm

A proportion perhaps - perhaps even a large one. No more so than End of Days Christians who would like to prompt WW3 to get things rolling.

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Post by tantamount » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:17 pm

Seth wrote:Just goes to show you that Muslims are ignorant barbarians.
It's always fun how christian bigots and athiests can find common cause.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:19 pm

Rum wrote:A proportion perhaps - perhaps even a large one. No more so than End of Days Christians who would like to prompt WW3 to get things rolling.
Well, a little moreso than the end of days Christians, since we haven't seen them scaling the walls of consulates and embassies....or the like.... Being a nutter is fine, or at least tolerable, as long as you keep the shoulder fired grenade launchers to yourselves....

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Post by Cormac » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:39 pm

Seth wrote:Just goes to show you that Muslims are ignorant barbarians.

I want to know where the U.S. Marines security detachment was and why they didn't blow those ignorant fuckwits to hell.

Seems like Obama doesn't assign a Marine security detail to consulates, only to embassies.

Time to paradrop the Marines and SEALS into Libya to protect our consulate and kill the terrorist fuckers who killed our Ambassador, since it's pretty clear that Libya's government isn't going to do it.
How stupid. You think Marines and Seals are some kind of super-soldiers that cannot be matched? When technological advantages are neutralised, and the other side control hearts, minds, and intelligence, marines and seals are as defeatable as any other group of soldiers. These particular Libyans, (if they are Libyans - they could be a bunch of mujehads) have just spent a year or two fighting a guerrilla war against a dictator. They will not be afraid, and will be prepared. It is almost certainly what they want.

I mean, small Vietnamese men and women did it to you in South-East Asia. It is happening in Afghanistan and Iraq. Are you so deluded that you want to mire the USA into a another guerrilla war?
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:40 pm

tantamount wrote:
Seth wrote:Just goes to show you that Muslims are ignorant barbarians.
It's always fun how christian bigots and athiests can find common cause.
Who? Me? I'm not a Christian. I'm a non-theistic Tolerist™.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:41 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Rum wrote:A proportion perhaps - perhaps even a large one. No more so than End of Days Christians who would like to prompt WW3 to get things rolling.
Well, a little moreso than the end of days Christians, since we haven't seen them scaling the walls of consulates and embassies....or the like.... Being a nutter is fine, or at least tolerable, as long as you keep the shoulder fired grenade launchers to yourselves....

...except the crusader loonies embedded in the military, and the whole "God on our side" routine.
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