Romney

Post by **Tero** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:28 am

We have a candidate
http://youtu.be/U1QijoZk0gU

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:33 pm

I like how the Young Turks, while attempting to slam Romney, implicitly slam the Obama Administration. See 1:45 in when they say that Romney doesn't love "your' freedom, because they imply he supports "all of these national security measures." Funny...The Obama Administration supports "all of these national security measures" 100%. So, if Romney doesn't support "your" freedom will they be consistent and say that Obama also does not support "your" freedom?

"Will indefinite detentions and warrantless wiretapping continue under Romney? Of COURSEEEE!!! Of courrsssee!!" Says the Young Turk....but, those indefinite detentions and warrantless wiretapping have continued under Obama. So, what is their gripe? Are they lambasting Obama too? Of course not. If they continue under Romney, "he doesn't give a dam about your freedom." So, doesn't that necessarily mean that Obama likewise does not give a damn about your freedom?

Post by **Drewish** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:42 pm

Tero wrote:We have a candidate
http://youtu.be/U1QijoZk0gU

That segment is such a collection of straw men. I'm no fan of Romney, but seriously, could these idiots be any more bias?

Post by **Tero** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:48 pm

I think the point was that all Romney is selling is freedom and less gubment and less raxes.

He is giving you freedom from food stamps. The job you gotta find yourself.

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:44 pm

Tero wrote:I think the point was that all Romney is selling is freedom and less gubment and less raxes.

Sounds good!

Tero wrote: He is giving you freedom from food stamps. The job you gotta find yourself.

Freedom from a fraud-ridden government program that is abused and misused more than it helps anyone.

And, I wouldn't want the government picking my job for me anyway.

You make a good sales pitch!

Post by **Drewish** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:30 pm

Tero wrote:I think the point was that all Romney is selling is freedom and less gubment and less raxes.

He is giving you freedom from food stamps. The job you gotta find yourself.

I think the point is that The Young Turks are more about pushing particular political narrative than informing people about real policy debates.

Post by **mistermack** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:18 pm

andrewclunn wrote:
Tero wrote:I think the point was that all Romney is selling is freedom and less gubment and less raxes.

He is giving you freedom from food stamps. The job you gotta find yourself.
I think the point is that The Young Turks are more about pushing particular political narrative than informing people about real policy debates.

I think they can feel justified, it's not like the other side doesn't get any support from an unbiased media.
The scales are always well and truly grounded on the conservative side.

Post by **Drewish** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:28 pm

It's that type of, "for the cause!" "us and them," thinking that allows people to justify anything

Post by **macdoc** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:29 pm

he's the stalking horse for a theocracy

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/29/mitt_an ... _prophecy/

Post by **Thumpalumpacus** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:12 pm

Wait, you mean to say that the media is biased?

When did this happen?

Post by **Bella Fortuna** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:36 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:Wait, you mean to say that the media is biased?

When did this happen?

The hell you say!

Post by **Tero** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:44 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpGR18A- ... re=related[/youtube]

Post by **Tero** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:04 pm

In a February speech to the Detroit Economic
Club, Romney used smoke-screen rhetoric as he said, “There will be
some changes in current deductions and exemptions for high-income
Americans. Those who receive the greatest benefits from rate cuts will
see the most significant limits.”

Post by **Blind groper** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:08 am

Loving freedom - all freedoms - is a sign that the person is an utter total moron.

Any society will have some freedoms and some restrictions. The alternative is chaos and anarchy. We have restrictions about how we drive on the highway, to stop us doing stupid things and killing people. Such restrictions are right and proper.

I love freedom too, but only the right freedoms. The ones that improve our lives. I love the opposite to freedom also - the restrictions, but only the right restrictions. The ones that improve our lives.

I am not American (Thank Finagle!), but if I were, Romney's rant on loving freedom would be enough to dissuade me from ever voting for the idiot.

Post by **Warren Dew** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:02 am

Tero wrote:He is giving you freedom from food stamps.

Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure there's a filibuster proof bipartisan supermajority in the senate from farm states willing to defend that farm subsidy to the death.

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