The return of the hang 'em and flog 'em brigade!

[Rum]

From: http://www.cypnow.co.uk/news/1111716/ (Children and Young People's News)

Military academies key to preventing repeat of last year's riots, says think-tank

By Neil Puffett Wednesday, 11 January 2012

Schools run by the military should be introduced to tackle issues linked to last year's riots, a think-tank has suggested.

More than a third of young people involved in last year's unrest had been excluded from school during 2009/10.

A report by ResPublica calls for a partnership between the Ministry of Defence and the Department for Education to create a chain of academies in areas where there are high numbers of young people not in education, employment or training (Neet).

Eventually the programme could be extended to all local authority areas with ResPublica suggesting that residents could petition for military academies to be opened.
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"We believe that riot-hit areas will be among those neighbourhoods that will particularly benefit from this initiative," the report states.

Military academies would create and teach from a unique curriculum, using expertise already existing in the Armed Forces.

The report states that academies would also be distinguished by their "whole person education" approach, emphasising the importance of "character formation", and "high ethical standards and values", besides more traditional and vocational skills.

It states that two-thirds of young people involved in last summer’s riots had some form of special educational need and more than a third had been excluded from school during 2009/10.

"Most obviously and straightforwardly, our proposal benefits the young who have grown up in deprived areas, both those who are talented and those who are troubled," the report states.

However, the idea has already sparked controversy. Chris Keates, general secretary of the union NASUWT, said the report is based on a "cynical misuse and misrepresentation" of the causes of last summer’s riots.

"There is no evidence of either the widespread involvement of people from deprived, working-class communities in the riots or that they instigated them.

"The proposal amounts to nothing more than the disgraceful, unjustified vilification of whole communities, promulgating the view that if you are poor and working class you must, therefore, be inclined to criminality and antisocial behaviour."

[Ronja]

This part is especially chilling:

Military academies would create and teach from a unique curriculum, using expertise already existing in the Armed Forces.

... in both and ways

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I don't know about the UK's military, but the lot I ran with would have made poor teachers for kids.

[Svartalf]

Were properly military schools ever common anyway?

I know we have a few (no more than half a dozen), ut we never had more... pre WWII disciplinary schools were certainly military styled, and often aimed at preparing the young hoodlums to a military career (as NCOs at the very best, of course), but they never were run by the military, and seldom even by real former military men (career soldiers, the abundance of wars meant we had plenty veterans anyway)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Were properly military schools ever common anyway?

I know we have a few (no more than half a dozen), ut we never had more... pre WWII disciplinary schools were certainly military styled, and often aimed at preparing the young hoodlums to a military career (as NCOs at the very best, of course), but they never were run by the military, and seldom even by real former military men (career soldiers, the abundance of wars meant we had plenty veterans anyway)

We have military schools here, The Citadel in South Carolina, for example. Not common, but you'll find a few in almost every state. The Citadel is a competitor with West Point, our official Army college and some of our best officers attended. Most of you won't recognize most of them, of course.

[Feck]

Running Man ..like the short story, not the film .That would solve the problem .

[Atheist-Lite]

I think the tanks right. The most disciplined and ordered can be utilised to keep order with the remainder. I would also suggest decimation of waywards. This will both control the population and limit it.

[Clinton Huxley]

A sensible policy for a better Blighty. Teach the rotters some damned discipline. By the time they leave school, these chaps may not be able to speak Mandarin or find a Higgs Bison but they'll dashed well know how to polish their shoes and make a bed.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You folks in the UK need more bread 'n' circuses. It works here.

[Svartalf]

A sensible policy for a better Blighty. Teach the rotters some damned discipline. By the time they leave school, these chaps may not be able to speak Mandarin or find a Higgs Bison but they'll dashed well know how to polish their shoes and make a bed.

gin, sodomy and the lash?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A sensible policy for a better Blighty. Teach the rotters some damned discipline. By the time they leave school, these chaps may not be able to speak Mandarin or find a Higgs Bison but they'll dashed well know how to polish their shoes and make a bed.

Rum, sodomy and the lash?

[Svartalf]

No, rum is specific to the Navy.

[Rum]

A sensible policy for a better Blighty. Teach the rotters some damned discipline. By the time they leave school, these chaps may not be able to speak Mandarin or find a Higgs Bison but they'll dashed well know how to polish their shoes and make a bed.

Rum, sodomy and the lash?

Send me directions?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A sensible policy for a better Blighty. Teach the rotters some damned discipline. By the time they leave school, these chaps may not be able to speak Mandarin or find a Higgs Bison but they'll dashed well know how to polish their shoes and make a bed.

Rum, sodomy and the lash?

Send me directions?

[Jesus_of_Nazareth]

I favour work camps. Both as an alternative to Prison (or ideally to supplement)....and as a pre-emptive move.

Prison labour is BIG business in the US.

If someone can come out as a time served Bricky or a Plasterer (not a 2 week wonder) after 3 years of work (8 to 6, six days a week) after half of a longggggg prison sentence (with the penalty being returning to prison to complete their sentence)..........might not guarantee that they get a job or stop a life of crime - but would provide an option they don't currently have - nor are likely to ever have.

And also maybe a spell in a re-education camps - you don't get out until can at least read and write (and do simple sums).

Remember "Works makes you Free".