What Republicans Do With Dead Soldiers
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What Republicans Do With Dead Soldiers
Dump them in the landfill.
I'm not kidding. 2003-2008. Dover AFB, where the Air Force flies returning remains of soldiers killed overseas, including in battle. Sometimes people get blown apart, and sometimes parts aren't found until after the rest of the soldier is buried. What happened is, they cremated them; that's OK. But then they took the ashes to the landfill.
This was entirely during the Bush administration. This is how the US did business then. Somebody must have figured they were going to find out because the Obama administration was sure to follow up on the requests of dead soldiers' relatives to find out where the missing parts were, so they changed it; now, the ashes are scattered at sea. But no one in the Bush administration did any oversight, and no one who was working at Dover ever expected them to. So they didn't give a shit. And they took the remains of soldiers who died fighting for their country to the fucking dump. That's what they thought of soldiers in a Republican administration.
This is disgusting. I am sickened. If you want to know why I never ever vote for Republicans it's because shit like this always turns up from a Republican administration.
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I'm not kidding. 2003-2008. Dover AFB, where the Air Force flies returning remains of soldiers killed overseas, including in battle. Sometimes people get blown apart, and sometimes parts aren't found until after the rest of the soldier is buried. What happened is, they cremated them; that's OK. But then they took the ashes to the landfill.
This was entirely during the Bush administration. This is how the US did business then. Somebody must have figured they were going to find out because the Obama administration was sure to follow up on the requests of dead soldiers' relatives to find out where the missing parts were, so they changed it; now, the ashes are scattered at sea. But no one in the Bush administration did any oversight, and no one who was working at Dover ever expected them to. So they didn't give a shit. And they took the remains of soldiers who died fighting for their country to the fucking dump. That's what they thought of soldiers in a Republican administration.
This is disgusting. I am sickened. If you want to know why I never ever vote for Republicans it's because shit like this always turns up from a Republican administration.
Read all about it.
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While I sympathise with those relatives who care, personally I don't give a shit what happens to my body after I'm dead.

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that's just disgusting! wrong, wrong, wrong, on so many levels.
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It is just meat
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Meh, we tossed extra parts in the river.
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The point is not that "it's just dead meat". That "dead meat" was someone's son or daughter fighting on behalf of their country. Even if it was just a finger, it should have been honored in some way before being disposed, and absolutely NOT in general dump.
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I agree. We dug up a couple of anonymous GIs and buried them with great honors at Arlington. So why not show the same respect for the parts they gave up while on active duty?kiki5711 wrote:The point is not that "it's just dead meat". That "dead meat" was someone's son or daughter fighting on behalf of their country. Even if it was just a finger, it should have been honored in some way before being disposed, and absolutely NOT in general dump.
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I don't see the problem with this at all. What is the difference between throwing it in a hole in the ground and dumping it off the back of a boat?They said the procedure was limited to fragments or portions of body parts that were unable to be identified at first or were later recovered from the battlefield, and which family members had said could be disposed of by the military.
Lt. Gen. Darrell G. Jones, the Air Force’s deputy chief for personnel, said the body parts were cremated, then incinerated, and then taken to a landfill by a military contractor. He likened the procedure to the disposal of medical waste.
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Grandpa, where's your other leg?
It's in a land fill in New Jersey, sonny.
It's in a land fill in New Jersey, sonny.
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what happened to my son's head? Sorry mam, but we had to torch it and dump it in a land fill, it didn't match any other body parts we found.
At the least they could do is collect the unidentifiable body parts, cremate them, and have an honorable good bye at sea. At the LEAST with a right hand on their forehead and heartfelt thanks for their sacrifice no matter who they belong to.
At the least they could do is collect the unidentifiable body parts, cremate them, and have an honorable good bye at sea. At the LEAST with a right hand on their forehead and heartfelt thanks for their sacrifice no matter who they belong to.
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Because it's meaningless. Would you "honour" an amputated leg if the donor was still alive? Honour and respect their memory, of course, but not by stressing over random body parts.Gawdzilla wrote:I agree. We dug up a couple of anonymous GIs and buried them with great honors at Arlington. So why not show the same respect for the parts they gave up while on active duty?kiki5711 wrote:The point is not that "it's just dead meat". That "dead meat" was someone's son or daughter fighting on behalf of their country. Even if it was just a finger, it should have been honored in some way before being disposed, and absolutely NOT in general dump.
As I said, I don't give a toss what happens to the leftover meat when I die.

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°kiki5711 wrote:what happened to my son's head? Sorry mam, but we had to torch it and dump it in a land fill, it didn't match any other body parts we found.
At the least they could do is collect the unidentifiable body parts, cremate them, and have an honorable good bye at sea. At the LEAST with a right hand on their forehead and heartfelt thanks for their sacrifice no matter who they belong to.
Maybe they should collect the water they use for rinsing the blood and random scraps that they couldn't scrape up too. That deserves an honourable send off as well. THEY WASH IT DOWN THE SEWERS WITH THE SHIT!!!111!111

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OMG! I hadn't thought of that. Something must definitely be DONE about this!Azathoth wrote:
Maybe they should collect the water they use for rinsing the blood and random scraps that they couldn't scrape up too. That deserves an honourable send off as well. THEY WASH IT DOWN THE SEWERS WITH THE SHIT!!!111!111
I'm incensed. Really.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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What isn't a big deal to us as atheists still has a lot of meaning for others. I understand this may seem like hand-wringing over nothing but religious people don't. At least allow them to grieve!
As for the living man's amputated leg...I would honor it as much as he needs me to. He's the one who suffered the loss, and has to suffer the grief. If burial in a cemetery is what will help him overcome the horror of what he now must live with, then power to him.
One of the things that differentiates this war from all others in the past is the huge number of servicepeople they were able to save that would have died in the past. That means the population of disabled veterans has skyrocketed. We don't have a clue what an impact this is going to have over the next years. If we aren't already doing it, it's those same disabled veterans we are dumping on the street to homelessness, without the care, therapy and support they need.
As the lone and staunch pro-peace advocate in a neighborhood full of pro-war christian republicans, I remember vividly being accused of not supporting the troops and being unpatriotic...what hypocrites those republicans are.
As for the living man's amputated leg...I would honor it as much as he needs me to. He's the one who suffered the loss, and has to suffer the grief. If burial in a cemetery is what will help him overcome the horror of what he now must live with, then power to him.
One of the things that differentiates this war from all others in the past is the huge number of servicepeople they were able to save that would have died in the past. That means the population of disabled veterans has skyrocketed. We don't have a clue what an impact this is going to have over the next years. If we aren't already doing it, it's those same disabled veterans we are dumping on the street to homelessness, without the care, therapy and support they need.
As the lone and staunch pro-peace advocate in a neighborhood full of pro-war christian republicans, I remember vividly being accused of not supporting the troops and being unpatriotic...what hypocrites those republicans are.
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I'm impressed by the utter contempt of it all. Its quite breathtaking. Bet the flags didn't get dumped in the landfill though.
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