Debate Over Declaration of Independence Rages!

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Debate Over Declaration of Independence Rages!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:15 pm

Is the US Declaration of Independence illegal? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

FFS - what the fuck are they arguing about?

Of course it was illegal under British law. That's why the Brits were all like "Blimey! Dey is traitahs!"

But, it wasn't illegal under U.S. law because there was no U.S. And, the colonists were all like,"we is breaking away because ya'll is violatin' our rights as Englishmen!"

Who was right was determined on the battlefield. Had the colonists lost, any captured "founding fathers" would have been hanged, or shot, as traitors. As it happened, they won, so, they gets their independence and their declaration of independence was proven to be legal.

At the time, there was no applicable governing law among the nations that one could look to in order to decide a case of the legality of the declaration of independence. We had a conflict of opinion regarding what British law was on the subject. It could only be settled by force of arms.

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Re: Debate Over Declaration of Independence Rages!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:16 pm

It's just a lawyer game, they're not serious.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:17 pm

Ths was covred in a earlier thread. Merger? :smoke:
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Post by Wumbologist » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:57 pm

They're always welcome to come try and collect their back taxes. :demon:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:01 pm

They'll never try to take back the US, they'd wind up with Texas.
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:29 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Is the US Declaration of Independence illegal? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

FFS - what the fuck are they arguing about?
They're watching this forum and doing it specifically to wind you up. :razzle:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:38 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Is the US Declaration of Independence illegal? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

FFS - what the fuck are they arguing about?
They're watching this forum and doing it specifically to wind you up. :razzle:
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:09 pm

Look, just hand over the fucking tea and we'll call it quits.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:14 pm

JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Look, just hand over the fucking tea and we'll call it quits.
Brits and their damn tea....we only dumped the shite in the harbor because we were looking for coffee, and all you blighters had was English Breakfast Tea....

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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:16 pm

Damn straight. :tea:
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Post by Wumbologist » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:31 pm

JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Look, just hand over the fucking tea and we'll call it quits.
It's in Boston Harbor, it's all yours if you want to fetch it from there.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:47 pm

Wumbologist wrote:
JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Look, just hand over the fucking tea and we'll call it quits.
It's in Boston Harbor, it's all yours if you want to fetch it from there.
We turned the ocean into a homeopathic cup-a-tea.

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Re: Debate Over Declaration of Independence Rages!

Post by Jason » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:52 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Is the US Declaration of Independence illegal? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

FFS - what the fuck are they arguing about?

Of course it was illegal under British law. That's why the Brits were all like "Blimey! Dey is traitahs!"

But, it wasn't illegal under U.S. law because there was no U.S. And, the colonists were all like,"we is breaking away because ya'll is violatin' our rights as Englishmen!"

Who was right was determined on the battlefield. Had the colonists lost, any captured "founding fathers" would have been hanged, or shot, as traitors. As it happened, they won, so, they gets their independence and their declaration of independence was proven to be legal.

At the time, there was no applicable governing law among the nations that one could look to in order to decide a case of the legality of the declaration of independence. We had a conflict of opinion regarding what British law was on the subject. It could only be settled by force of arms.
It is humorous that breakaway nation states have to be 'recognized' these days. I wonder who would have recognized the U.S. besides France and Spain back then.. :ask:

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Re: Debate Over Declaration of Independence Rages!

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:10 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Wumbologist wrote:
JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Look, just hand over the fucking tea and we'll call it quits.
It's in Boston Harbor, it's all yours if you want to fetch it from there.
We turned the ocean into a homeopathic cup-a-tea.
Destroying tea is almost forgiveable - but practising homeopathy.... :nono:
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Re: Debate Over Declaration of Independence Rages!

Post by Ian » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:47 pm

I for one welcome our new Royal overlords...

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