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[Existentialist1844]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/30/ker ... -morality/

OKLAHOMA CITIZEN’S PROCLAMATION FOR MORALITY
We the People of Oklahoma, Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to
secure and perpetuate the blessing of Liberty; to secure just and rightful Government; to promote
our mutual Welfare and Happiness, do establish this proclamation and call upon the people of the
great State of Oklahoma, and our fellow Patriots in these United States of America who look to
the Lord for guidance, to acknowledge the need for a national awakening of righteousness in our
land.
WHEREAS, “It is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon
which Freedom can securely stand” (John Adams); and
WHEREAS, “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with
human passions unbridled by Religion and Morality” (John Adams); and
WHEREAS, “Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people” (John
Adams); and
WHEREAS, “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the
power of government…but upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity
of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to
the Ten Commandments of God” (James Madison); and
WHEREAS, “Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that
belongs to us by the laws of God (Benjamin Franklin); and
WHEREAS, “God who gave us life gave us liberty and can the liberties of a nation be
thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the
people that these liberties are of the Gift of God” (Thomas Jefferson); and
WHEREAS, “Whether any free government can be permanent, where the public
worship of God, and the support of Religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state”
(Joseph Story); and
WHEREAS, “We hold sacred the rights of conscience, and promise to the people…the
free and undisturbed exercise of their religion” (Roger Sherman); and
WHEREAS, “This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians”
(Patrick Henry); and
WHEREAS, “When you…exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be
impressed upon your mind that God commands you to choose just men who will rule in the fear of
God” (Noah Webster); and
WHEREAS, “The principles of genuine Liberty and of wise laws and administrations
are to be drawn from the Bible” (Noah Webster); and
WHEREAS, the people of Oklahoma have a strong tradition of reliance upon the
Creator of the Universe; and
WHEREAS, we believe our economic woes are consequences of our greater national
moral crisis; and
WHEREAS, this nation has become a world leader in promoting abortion,
pornography, same sex marriage, sex trafficking, divorce, illegitimate births, child abuse, and
many other forms of debauchery; and
WHEREAS, alarmed that the Government of the United States of America is forsaking
the rich Christian heritage upon which this nation was built; and
WHEREAS, grieved that the Office of the president of these United States has refused
to uphold the long held tradition of past presidents in giving recognition to our National Day of
Prayer; and
WHEREAS, deeply disturbed that the Office of the president of these United States
disregards the biblical admonitions to live clean and pure lives by proclaiming an entire month to
an immoral behavior;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that we the undersigned elected officials
of the people of Oklahoma, religious leaders and citizens of the State of Oklahoma, appealing to
the Supreme Judge of the world, solemnly declare that the HOPE of the great State of Oklahoma
and of these United States, rests upon the Principles of Religion and Morality as put forth in the
HOLY BIBLE; and
BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, believers in the One True God and His
only Son, call upon all to join with us in recognizing that “Blessed is the Nation whose God is the
Lord,” and humbly implore all who love Truth and Virtue to live above reproach in the sight of God
and man with a firm reliance on the leadership and protection of Almighty God; and
BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, humbly call upon Holy God, our
Creator, Sustainer, and Redeemer, to have mercy on this nation, to stay His hand of judgment,
and grant a national awakening of righteousness and Christian renewal as we repent of our great
sin.
Signed on the second day of July in the year of our Lord Christ Two Thousand and Nine.

[Ian]

Yet another reason I've resolved never to live in a red flyover state.

[Existentialist1844]

Yet another reason I've resolved never to live in a red flyover state.

It really is disgusting.

[Existentialist1844]

This part pissed me off:

Kern’s proclamation specifically criticizes President Obama for recognizing June as LGBT Pride Month. “Whereas, deeply disturbed that the Office of the president of these United States disregards the biblical admonitions to live clean and pure lives by proclaiming an entire month to an immoral behavior,” reads the proclamation.

:pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

[FBM]

And people wonder why I drink.

[Chinaski]

Moved this to news.

[Ian]

This illustrates why "Okie" considered an insult in this country.

[Clinton Huxley]

These people give buffoons a bad name

[Bella Fortuna]

Yeesh.

[RPizzle]

I'm glad I don't travel much, because I don't know how I could say "I live in America," without being laughed at.

[Existentialist1844]

I'm glad I don't travel much, because I don't know how I could say "I live in America," without being laughed at.

Well, I'm glad I at least live on the Northeast.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I have split the victorian diseases conversation to a new thread in the pub. This is News folks. No derails please.

[Clinton Huxley]

I have split the victorian diseases conversation to a new thread in the pub. This is News folks. No derails please.

But...but ....the "News" is but a media construct and, as such, one giant derail from what is actually going on in the world.....

[Transgirlofnofaith]

"WHEREAS, “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the
power of government…but upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity
of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to
the Ten Commandments of God” (James Madison); and"

Well, that right there pretty much sums up the ideas of Anarchist conservatives right there. No authority other than one's self and narrow local tribal loyalties. All in all, a kind of personal loyalty that is more along the lines of something 500 years ago in europe than the modern world. Actually, it's more narrow than that, because these people probably don't like the idea of distant rulers of any sort, no matter how they are selected. Anarchist conservaticm means a belief in only the authority of oneself and allegiance to one's tribal group, combined with an infectious, all-pervasive religiousity that is all-surrounding and of total smothering influence. How do people develop ideas this stupid? Inbreeding? I'm being serious. How can someone actually believe in shit this stupid unless they have some kind of mental deficiency? This is the kind of stuff that makes me think that the future of the United States as a modern country, if you consider it to be now, is in doubt. If reigiots like this, who are the equivalent of the theocrats in Iran, ever come into power, then the US will stop being a modern state and become isolated from the rest of the world.

A couple of books that I just thought of:

Naomi Wolf - The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot; and
Margaret Atwood - The Handmaiden's Tale.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

"WHEREAS, “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the
power of government…but upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity
of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to
the Ten Commandments of God” (James Madison); and"

Well, that right there pretty much sums up the ideas of Anarchist conservatives right there. No authority other than one's self and narrow local tribal loyalties. All in all, a kind of personal loyalty that is more along the lines of something 500 years ago in europe than the modern world. Actually, it's more narrow than that, because these people probably don't like the idea of distant rulers of any sort, no matter how they are selected. Anarchist conservaticm means a belief in only the authority of oneself and allegiance to one's tribal group, combined with an infectious, all-pervasive religiousity that is all-surrounding and of total smothering influence. How do people develop ideas this stupid? Inbreeding? I'm being serious. How can someone actually believe in shit this stupid unless they have some kind of mental deficiency? This is the kind of stuff that makes me think that the future of the United States as a modern country, if you consider it to be now, is in doubt. If reigiots like this, who are the equivalent of the theocrats in Iran, ever come into power, then the US will stop being a modern state and become isolated from the rest of the world.

A couple of books that I just thought of:

Naomi Wolf - The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot; and
Margaret Atwood - The Handmaiden's Tale.

That whole diatribe of bollocks is a testament to idiocy in my book. It beggars belief that anyone with the power of speech (let alone able to write) could be that fucking stupid. There, my friends, is the power of indoctrination; there is the power of being lied to every day of your childhood and early adult life by everyone that you know, everyone you love, everyone you respect; there is the power of being told again and again to silence your inner questions; there is the power of embracing ignorance in order to fit in; there is the power of religion; there is the power of bullshit at critical mass!

There is the Taleban. Just with a different hat on.