Technically Impossible for White People to be "Terrorists"

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Technically Impossible for White People to be "Terrorists"

Post by Gawd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:42 pm

The omnipotence of Al Qaeda and meaninglessness of "Terrorism"
For much of the day yesterday, the featured headline on The New York Times online front page strongly suggested that Muslims were responsible for the attacks on Oslo; that led to definitive statements on the BBC and elsewhere that Muslims were the culprits. The Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin wrote a whole column based on the assertion that Muslims were responsible, one that, as James Fallows notes, remains at the Post with no corrections or updates. The morning statement issued by President Obama -- "It's a reminder that the entire international community holds a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring" and "we have to work cooperatively together both on intelligence and in terms of prevention of these kinds of horrible attacks" -- appeared to assume, though (to its credit) did not overtly state, that the perpetrator was an international terrorist group.

But now it turns out that the alleged perpetrator wasn't from an international Muslim extremist group at all, but was rather a right-wing Norwegian nationalist with a history of anti-Muslim commentary and an affection for Muslim-hating blogs such as Pam Geller's Atlas Shrugged, Daniel Pipes, and Robert Spencer's Jihad Watch. Despite that, The New York Times is still working hard to pin some form of blame, even ultimate blame, on Muslim radicals

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Al Qaeda is always to blame, even when it isn't, even when it's allegedly the work of a Nordic, Muslim-hating, right-wing European nationalist. Of course, before Al Qaeda, nobody ever thought to detonate bombs in government buildings or go on indiscriminate, politically motivated shooting rampages. The NYT speculates that amonium nitrate fertilizer may have been used to make the bomb because the suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, owned a farming-related business and thus could have access to that material; of course nobody would have ever thought of using that substance to make a massive bomb had it not been for Al Qaeda. So all this proves once again what a menacing threat radical Islam is.


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Then there's this extraordinarily revealing passage from the NYT -- first noticed by Richard Silverstein -- explaining why the paper originally reported what it did:

Initial reports focused on the possibility of Islamic militants, in particular Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or Helpers of the Global Jihad, cited by some analysts as claiming responsibility for the attacks. American officials said the group was previously unknown and might not even exist.

There was ample reason for concern that terrorists might be responsible.

In other words, now that we know the alleged perpetrator is not Muslim, we know -- by definition -- that Terrorists are not responsible; conversely, when we thought Muslims were responsible, that meant -- also by definition -- that it was an act of Terrorism. As Silverstein put it:

How's that again? Are the only terrorists in the world Muslim? If so, what do we call a right-wing nationalist capable of planting major bombs and mowing down scores of people for the sake of the greater glory of his cause? If even a liberal newspaper like the Times can't call this guy a terrorist, what does that say about the mindset of the western world?

What it says is what we've seen repeatedly: that Terrorism has no objective meaning and, at least in American political discourse, has come functionally to mean: violence committed by Muslims whom the West dislikes, no matter the cause or the target. Indeed, in many (though not all) media circles, discussion of the Oslo attack quickly morphed from this is Terrorism (when it was believed Muslims did it) to no, this isn't Terrorism, just extremism (once it became likely that Muslims didn't).

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That Terrorism means nothing more than violence committed by Muslims whom the West dislikes has been proven repeatedly. When an airplane was flown into an IRS building in Austin, Texas, it was immediately proclaimed to be Terrorism, until it was revealed that the attacker was a white, non-Muslim, American anti-tax advocate with a series of domestic political grievances. The U.S. and its allies can, by definition, never commit Terrorism even when it is beyond question that the purpose of their violence is to terrorize civilian populations into submission. Conversely, Muslims who attack purely military targets -- even if the target is an invading army in their own countries -- are, by definition, Terrorists. That is why, as NYU's Remi Brulin has extensively documented, Terrorism is the most meaningless, and therefore the most manipulated, word in the English language. Yesterday provided yet another sterling example.

One last question: if, as preliminary evidence suggests, it turns out that Breivik was "inspired" by the extremist hatemongering rantings of Geller, Pipes and friends, will their groups be deemed Terrorist organizations such that any involvement with them could constitute the criminal offense of material support to Terrorism? Will those extremist polemicists inspiring Terrorist violence receive the Anwar Awlaki treatment of being put on an assassination hit list without due process? Will tall, blond, Nordic-looking males now receive extra scrutiny at airports and other locales, and will those having any involvement with those right-wing, Muslim-hating groups be secretly placed on no-fly lists? Or are those oppressive, extremist, lawless measures -- like the word Terrorism -- also reserved exclusively for Muslims?
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Re: Technically Impossible for White People to be "Terrorist

Post by Animavore » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:43 pm

This arsehole has obviously never heard of the IRA.
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Post by Rum » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:44 pm

Animavore wrote:This arsehole has obviously never heard of the IRA.
Mind you they were a much better class of terrorist altogether I always thought. :spock:

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Post by Animavore » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:49 pm

Rum wrote:
Animavore wrote:This arsehole has obviously never heard of the IRA.
Mind you they were a much better class of terrorist altogether I always thought. :spock:
Well they weren't stupid enough to kill themselves :smug:
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Post by Woodbutcher » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:05 pm

If you are acting alone, you are a fucking nutcase. If you act in a group of fucking nutcases, you are a terrorist, whether your group is al-Quaida or Michigan militia.
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Post by Gallstones » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:06 pm

Timothy McVeigh?
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Re: Technically Impossible for White People to be "Terrorist

Post by Ian » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:11 pm

Baader-Meinhof / Red Army?

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:24 pm

The Molly McGuires?

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Post by leo-rcc » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:26 pm

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:27 pm

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Re: Technically Impossible for White People to be "Terrorist

Post by klr » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:31 pm

Animavore wrote:This arsehole has obviously never heard of the IRA.
Or ETA, the Red Army Faction/Baader-Meinhof Group, etc.

:doh: SNAP!
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Post by amused » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:31 pm

If an act of terror automatically raises the name of a group as a potential perpetrator, then that group has a pre-disposed association with causing terror, because they caused terror. If they don't want to be associated with causing terror, they shouldn't cause any terror.

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Post by Gawd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:35 pm

amused wrote:If an act of terror automatically raises the name of a group as a potential perpetrator, then that group has a pre-disposed association with causing terror, because they caused terror. If they don't want to be associated with causing terror, they shouldn't cause any terror.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:36 pm

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amused wrote:If an act of terror automatically raises the name of a group as a potential perpetrator, then that group has a pre-disposed association with causing terror, because they caused terror. If they don't want to be associated with causing terror, they shouldn't cause any terror.
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