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U.S. Deploys Battle Group near North Korea
U.S. Deploys Battle Group near North Korea
Sunday, 21 June 2009 22:16 TRN Staff
Yokosuka, Japan (TRN)-- The United States has deployed the aircraft carrier George Washington and its Strike Group to take up station near North Korea in advance of a planned ballistic missile launch by that nation toward Hawaii. The missile launch is scheduled for July 4.
The aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73) with its crew of approximately 5,500 Sailors is the United States’ only permanently forward-deployed aircraft carrier. The George Washington will be joined by Carrier Battle Force 70, Carrier Air Wing 5, Surface Combatant Force Seventh Fleet (CTF-75), Carrier Strike Force Seventh Fleet (CTF-77) and Destroyer Squadron 15 in a massive show of force.
The mission is to provide centralized planning, control, coordination and integration of assigned assets in support of air, surface, subsurface, strike warfare, space and electronic warfare, amphibious warfare and mine warfare operations - or exercises - simultaneously.
Local commanders have been given Tactical Command of Cruiser-Destroyer, Carrier Air Strike, and Surface Action Groups, and will act as Combined Warfare Commander for the Battle Group and Task Force, and as Naval Component Commander for Combined, Joint, or Allied Forces. The Group operates as a component of, or as the Joint Force Air Component Commander (JFACC) directing tactical air control within a Joint, Unified, or Allied environment. This means that any act of aggression against the United States or its allies in the region will be met with a response immediately, without need for prior approval from Washington.
Sources in the Pentagon tell TRN that this level of autonomy is unusual. One source, who requested anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media, said the deployment "is designed to make clear to North Korea that the United States has had enough of their belligerence and blackmail."
North Korea recently test detonated a second nuclear bomb in defiance of world efforts to persuade them to stop their nuclear arms program. North Korea also recently launched multiple long range missiles capable of reaching South Korea and Japan, in defiance of both countries security.
When satellites detected launch preparations at another long range missile site, North Korea revealed it intends to conduct yet another missile test, this one an intercontinental ballistic missile which they say they will fire "toward Hawaii."
Secretary of Defense William Gates has since ordered the deployment of U.S. Missile defenses to Hawaii. Those defenses, part of the "Star Wars" system created under President Ronald Reagan, can intercept and destroy the North Korean missile if it threatens Hawaii.
North Korea has stated they will respond with military attacks against South Korea and Japan if any of their missiles are shot down by an outside country.
Sunday, 21 June 2009 22:16 TRN Staff
Yokosuka, Japan (TRN)-- The United States has deployed the aircraft carrier George Washington and its Strike Group to take up station near North Korea in advance of a planned ballistic missile launch by that nation toward Hawaii. The missile launch is scheduled for July 4.
The aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73) with its crew of approximately 5,500 Sailors is the United States’ only permanently forward-deployed aircraft carrier. The George Washington will be joined by Carrier Battle Force 70, Carrier Air Wing 5, Surface Combatant Force Seventh Fleet (CTF-75), Carrier Strike Force Seventh Fleet (CTF-77) and Destroyer Squadron 15 in a massive show of force.
The mission is to provide centralized planning, control, coordination and integration of assigned assets in support of air, surface, subsurface, strike warfare, space and electronic warfare, amphibious warfare and mine warfare operations - or exercises - simultaneously.
Local commanders have been given Tactical Command of Cruiser-Destroyer, Carrier Air Strike, and Surface Action Groups, and will act as Combined Warfare Commander for the Battle Group and Task Force, and as Naval Component Commander for Combined, Joint, or Allied Forces. The Group operates as a component of, or as the Joint Force Air Component Commander (JFACC) directing tactical air control within a Joint, Unified, or Allied environment. This means that any act of aggression against the United States or its allies in the region will be met with a response immediately, without need for prior approval from Washington.
Sources in the Pentagon tell TRN that this level of autonomy is unusual. One source, who requested anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media, said the deployment "is designed to make clear to North Korea that the United States has had enough of their belligerence and blackmail."
North Korea recently test detonated a second nuclear bomb in defiance of world efforts to persuade them to stop their nuclear arms program. North Korea also recently launched multiple long range missiles capable of reaching South Korea and Japan, in defiance of both countries security.
When satellites detected launch preparations at another long range missile site, North Korea revealed it intends to conduct yet another missile test, this one an intercontinental ballistic missile which they say they will fire "toward Hawaii."
Secretary of Defense William Gates has since ordered the deployment of U.S. Missile defenses to Hawaii. Those defenses, part of the "Star Wars" system created under President Ronald Reagan, can intercept and destroy the North Korean missile if it threatens Hawaii.
North Korea has stated they will respond with military attacks against South Korea and Japan if any of their missiles are shot down by an outside country.
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The Navy's only forward deployed Destroyer Squadron, DESRON 15 is the US Navy's largest destroyer squadron, consisting of seven warships. It has administrative, tactical and readiness commander responsibilities for one TICONDEROGA Class guided missle cruiser, two SPRUANCE Class Destroyers, two ARLEIGH BURKE Class guided missile class destroyers and two PERRY Class guided missile frigates as a unit of Battle Force SEVENTH Fleet in the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans. These combatants conduct operations across the Western Pacific, from bilateral exercises with allies such as the Republic of Korea and Japan, to responding to short-notice operations is East Timor.
Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN was established in 1920, as a unit of the reserve fleet based at the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Although the squadron was disestablished in July 1922 when two of its divisions were transferred to the Asiatic Fleet in the Pacific, the Asiatic DESRON was redesignated Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN in 1928. Following patrol and training operations in the Pacific, DESRON FIFTEEN was redesignated DESRON FIVE in 1931.
Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN was again commissioned in 1942 and fought in the battles for North Africa and Sicily. In addition, the squadron participated in nineteen round trip convoy crossings of the Atlantic during the war. In 1945, the squadron converted to Destroyer Minesweepers (DMS), and was redesignated MINERON 21.
Activated again in 1946 for service with the Pacific Fleet through 1949, the squadron was briefly disestablished in 1950. The squadron was again commissioned for service in San Diego on 24 August 1950 following the outbreak of the Korean War in June 1950 and continues in commission today.
Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN departed San Diego in 1971 for permanent forward deployment in Yokosuka, Japan, as the destroyer squadron component of the Navy's Overseas Family Residency Program. Squadron combatants at the time included the destroyers ROWAN, RICHARD B. ANDERSON, BAUSELL, GURKE and the guided missile destroyer PARSONS. Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN ships quickly established an enviable record of service, ranging the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Squadron operations during the early to mid 1970's were highlighted by combat operations off Vietnam, as well as deployments to the Arabian Gulf.
In 1975, the older WWII era destroyers of DESRON FIFTEEN began to be replaced by the newer KNOX class frigates LOCKWOOD, FRANCIS HAMMOND, KNOX and KIRK. By 1978 this conversion was complete, and in 1980 the guided missile destroyer PARSONS was replaced by another guided missile destroyer, TOWERS. Squadron operations during the late 1970's and early 1980's were highlighted by intensive anti-submarine warfare operations, support of numerous contingency operations, and by a growing number of deployments to the Arabian Gulf during the Iranian Hostage Crises, and later, the Iran - Iraq war. Squadron combatants also participated in exercises with and port visits to numerous countries throughout the Pacific.
During the 1980's, the SPRUANCE-class destroyers FIFE, HEWITT and OLDENDORF as well as the PERRY-class guided missile frigates CURTS, MCCLUSKY, THACH and RODNEY M. DAVIS replaced the aging KNOX class frigates. The destroyer O'BRIEN, replaced OLDENDORF when the latter returned to the United States.
The 1990's saw the addition of the new ARLEIGH BURKE class guided destroyers CURTIS WILBUR and JOHN S. MCCAIN, and the TICONDEROGA class guided missle cruiser VINCENNES. In addition to these new classes of ships being assigned to the Forward Deployed Navel Force, the upgraded PERRY class frigate VANDEGRIFT replaced RODNEY M. DAVIS and the SPRUANCE class destroyer CUSHING replaced the FIFE.
Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN was established in 1920, as a unit of the reserve fleet based at the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Although the squadron was disestablished in July 1922 when two of its divisions were transferred to the Asiatic Fleet in the Pacific, the Asiatic DESRON was redesignated Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN in 1928. Following patrol and training operations in the Pacific, DESRON FIFTEEN was redesignated DESRON FIVE in 1931.
Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN was again commissioned in 1942 and fought in the battles for North Africa and Sicily. In addition, the squadron participated in nineteen round trip convoy crossings of the Atlantic during the war. In 1945, the squadron converted to Destroyer Minesweepers (DMS), and was redesignated MINERON 21.
Activated again in 1946 for service with the Pacific Fleet through 1949, the squadron was briefly disestablished in 1950. The squadron was again commissioned for service in San Diego on 24 August 1950 following the outbreak of the Korean War in June 1950 and continues in commission today.
Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN departed San Diego in 1971 for permanent forward deployment in Yokosuka, Japan, as the destroyer squadron component of the Navy's Overseas Family Residency Program. Squadron combatants at the time included the destroyers ROWAN, RICHARD B. ANDERSON, BAUSELL, GURKE and the guided missile destroyer PARSONS. Destroyer Squadron FIFTEEN ships quickly established an enviable record of service, ranging the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Squadron operations during the early to mid 1970's were highlighted by combat operations off Vietnam, as well as deployments to the Arabian Gulf.
In 1975, the older WWII era destroyers of DESRON FIFTEEN began to be replaced by the newer KNOX class frigates LOCKWOOD, FRANCIS HAMMOND, KNOX and KIRK. By 1978 this conversion was complete, and in 1980 the guided missile destroyer PARSONS was replaced by another guided missile destroyer, TOWERS. Squadron operations during the late 1970's and early 1980's were highlighted by intensive anti-submarine warfare operations, support of numerous contingency operations, and by a growing number of deployments to the Arabian Gulf during the Iranian Hostage Crises, and later, the Iran - Iraq war. Squadron combatants also participated in exercises with and port visits to numerous countries throughout the Pacific.
During the 1980's, the SPRUANCE-class destroyers FIFE, HEWITT and OLDENDORF as well as the PERRY-class guided missile frigates CURTS, MCCLUSKY, THACH and RODNEY M. DAVIS replaced the aging KNOX class frigates. The destroyer O'BRIEN, replaced OLDENDORF when the latter returned to the United States.
The 1990's saw the addition of the new ARLEIGH BURKE class guided destroyers CURTIS WILBUR and JOHN S. MCCAIN, and the TICONDEROGA class guided missle cruiser VINCENNES. In addition to these new classes of ships being assigned to the Forward Deployed Navel Force, the upgraded PERRY class frigate VANDEGRIFT replaced RODNEY M. DAVIS and the SPRUANCE class destroyer CUSHING replaced the FIFE.
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Anybody remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident? History may be about to repeat itself:
North Korea threatens to harm US if attacked
SEOUL, South Korea – President Barack Obama assured Americans in an interview broadcast Monday that the U.S. is prepared for any move North Korea might make, amid reports that Pyongyang is planning a long-range missile test to follow up its provocative nuclear test last month.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates has ordered additional protection for Hawaii as a precaution, though experts say North Korea doesn't yet have a ballistic missile that can reach Hawaii and has not mastered mounting a nuclear bomb on a long-range missile.
Still, North Korea declared itself a "proud nuclear power" and warned it will strike if provoked.
"It would be a grave mistake for the U.S. to think it can remain unhurt if it ignites the fuse of war on the Korean peninsula," the country's main Rodong Sinmun said in a commentary.
The U.S., which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, has said it has no such intentions.
Obama assured Americans that "this administration — and our military — is fully prepared for any contingencies." His interview with CBS News' "The Early Show" was taped Friday for broadcast Monday.
"I don't want to speculate on hypotheticals," Obama told CBS. "But I want ... to give assurances to the American people that the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted in terms of what might happen."
A U.S. destroyer, meanwhile, was shadowing a North Korean cargo ship suspected of carrying illicit weapons.
The Kang Nam, accused of engaging in illicit trade in the past, appeared to be heading toward Myanmar, a South Korean intelligence official said Monday. He said the ship is believed to be transporting banned weapons. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitive nature of the information.
Myanmar's military government, which faces an arms embargo from the United States and the European Union, reportedly has bought weapons from the North in the past.
The Kang Nam is the first ship being tracked under new U.N. Security Council sanctions designed to punish the North for its defiant underground nuclear test last month. It could become a test case for the interception of North Korean ships at sea — a move Pyongyang has said it would consider an act of war.
The sanctions require U.N. member states to inspect vessels believed to contain banned goods — with the consent of the nation whose flag the ship is flying. The resolution also orders member states not to provide fuel and other supplies to North Korean ships suspected of carrying banned items.
However, North Korea is unlikely to allow any inspection of its cargo, making an interception impossible, said Hong Hyun-ik, an analyst at the Sejong Institute think tank.
A Japan-based destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, was relatively close to the North Korean ship but had no orders to intercept it, a senior U.S. military official told The Associated Press on Friday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The ship is named after the grandfather and father of Senator John McCain. He said the U.S. should board the Kang Nam even without North Korean permission if hard evidence shows it is carrying missiles or other cargo in violation of U.N. resolutions.
"It's going to contribute to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction to rogue nations that pose a direct threat to the United States," McCain said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."
Navy spokesman Cmdr. Ron Steiner said he could not comment on the warship's activity. A Japanese Defense Ministry spokeswoman also declined to provide any details but said Japan and U.S. defense officials were monitoring the situation.
Japan's Coast Guard, meanwhile, said it received a notice from North Korea's maritime authority saying ships would be banned from the waters off the coast of northern North Korea and southeastern Russia between June 25 through July 10 "for military exercises."
Coast Guard spokesman Go Nagai said the exercise wasn't considered a threat to Japan's national security.
Washington and North Korea's neighbors scrambled to find a way to defuse tensions on the Korean peninsula, with U.S. defense officials heading Monday to Beijing for talks with their Chinese counterparts.
Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was en route to Beijing and was scheduled to continue on to Tokyo and Seoul later in the week for discussions about North Korea.
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Associated Press writers Hyung-jin Kim in Seoul and Mari Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report.
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North Korea threatens to harm US if attacked
SEOUL, South Korea – President Barack Obama assured Americans in an interview broadcast Monday that the U.S. is prepared for any move North Korea might make, amid reports that Pyongyang is planning a long-range missile test to follow up its provocative nuclear test last month.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates has ordered additional protection for Hawaii as a precaution, though experts say North Korea doesn't yet have a ballistic missile that can reach Hawaii and has not mastered mounting a nuclear bomb on a long-range missile.
Still, North Korea declared itself a "proud nuclear power" and warned it will strike if provoked.
"It would be a grave mistake for the U.S. to think it can remain unhurt if it ignites the fuse of war on the Korean peninsula," the country's main Rodong Sinmun said in a commentary.
The U.S., which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, has said it has no such intentions.
Obama assured Americans that "this administration — and our military — is fully prepared for any contingencies." His interview with CBS News' "The Early Show" was taped Friday for broadcast Monday.
"I don't want to speculate on hypotheticals," Obama told CBS. "But I want ... to give assurances to the American people that the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted in terms of what might happen."
A U.S. destroyer, meanwhile, was shadowing a North Korean cargo ship suspected of carrying illicit weapons.
The Kang Nam, accused of engaging in illicit trade in the past, appeared to be heading toward Myanmar, a South Korean intelligence official said Monday. He said the ship is believed to be transporting banned weapons. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitive nature of the information.
Myanmar's military government, which faces an arms embargo from the United States and the European Union, reportedly has bought weapons from the North in the past.
The Kang Nam is the first ship being tracked under new U.N. Security Council sanctions designed to punish the North for its defiant underground nuclear test last month. It could become a test case for the interception of North Korean ships at sea — a move Pyongyang has said it would consider an act of war.
The sanctions require U.N. member states to inspect vessels believed to contain banned goods — with the consent of the nation whose flag the ship is flying. The resolution also orders member states not to provide fuel and other supplies to North Korean ships suspected of carrying banned items.
However, North Korea is unlikely to allow any inspection of its cargo, making an interception impossible, said Hong Hyun-ik, an analyst at the Sejong Institute think tank.
A Japan-based destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, was relatively close to the North Korean ship but had no orders to intercept it, a senior U.S. military official told The Associated Press on Friday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The ship is named after the grandfather and father of Senator John McCain. He said the U.S. should board the Kang Nam even without North Korean permission if hard evidence shows it is carrying missiles or other cargo in violation of U.N. resolutions.
"It's going to contribute to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction to rogue nations that pose a direct threat to the United States," McCain said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."
Navy spokesman Cmdr. Ron Steiner said he could not comment on the warship's activity. A Japanese Defense Ministry spokeswoman also declined to provide any details but said Japan and U.S. defense officials were monitoring the situation.
Japan's Coast Guard, meanwhile, said it received a notice from North Korea's maritime authority saying ships would be banned from the waters off the coast of northern North Korea and southeastern Russia between June 25 through July 10 "for military exercises."
Coast Guard spokesman Go Nagai said the exercise wasn't considered a threat to Japan's national security.
Washington and North Korea's neighbors scrambled to find a way to defuse tensions on the Korean peninsula, with U.S. defense officials heading Monday to Beijing for talks with their Chinese counterparts.
Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was en route to Beijing and was scheduled to continue on to Tokyo and Seoul later in the week for discussions about North Korea.
___
Associated Press writers Hyung-jin Kim in Seoul and Mari Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report.
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Good thing we have all those extra resources to apply to yet another war.
Brits! Handle this, please. (2 SAS teams should do.)
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If it does escalate, it'll be a helluva lot different from last time you guys were in that part of the world.
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...

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Yeah, it''s y'all's turn to be greeted as liberators.Gawdzilla wrote:Good thing we have all those extra resources to apply to yet another war.
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I'm going to take my camera out tomorrow and see if I can show you all a sample of the increase in airborne activity that's been going on latetly. We seem to be under an ROKAF flight path.Geoff wrote:If it does escalate, it'll be a helluva lot different from last time you guys were in that part of the world.
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...
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Wouldn't know nuffin' 'bout no Predators.Geoff wrote:If it does escalate, it'll be a helluva lot different from last time you guys were in that part of the world.
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...

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You might want to move...FBM wrote:I'm going to take my camera out tomorrow and see if I can show you all a sample of the increase in airborne activity that's been going on latetly. We seem to be under an ROKAF flight path.Geoff wrote:If it does escalate, it'll be a helluva lot different from last time you guys were in that part of the world.
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...

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And miss out on all the photo ops?Geoff wrote:You might want to move...FBM wrote:I'm going to take my camera out tomorrow and see if I can show you all a sample of the increase in airborne activity that's been going on latetly. We seem to be under an ROKAF flight path.Geoff wrote:If it does escalate, it'll be a helluva lot different from last time you guys were in that part of the world.
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...

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Yeah, the next generation of UAVs are surely online now.Gawdzilla wrote:Wouldn't know nuffin' 'bout no Predators.Geoff wrote:If it does escalate, it'll be a helluva lot different from last time you guys were in that part of the world.
Fair bet there's already a swarm of Predators buzzing around, looking for things to do...
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