Whopper of the Month

[egbert]

Whopper of the Month:

The "white guy in Louisana" didn't shoot the Japanese exchange student merely because the student went to the wrong house by mistake, he shot the student because the drunken, violent Japanese exchange student at the wrong house tried to break into the white guy's house repeatedly, and despite being told many times he would be shot if he didn't desist, and despite being presented with a frightened homeowner visibly armed with a handgun, the
drunken, violent Japanese student continued to advance on the homeowner in a manner which reasonably lead the homeowner to believe his life, or his wife's life, was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury, which justified his firing his gun.
Lesson: Don't get drunk and wander about in the wee small hours of the morning in places unfamiliar to you, and don't try to violently break into any house anywhere, especially in the United States, because it'll likely get you justifiably shot dead.

Here's the Truth:

?Yoshihiro Hattori was born on November 22, 1975, to Masaichi, the
father, and Mieko, the mother, in Nagoya, Aichi Prefecture. When he
was sixteen years old, he left for Baton Rouge in the United States as
an AFS exchange student and a recipient of Morita Foundation
scholarship.
Hattori, a 16-year-old exchange student from Japan, was a bright,
fun-loving sprite who had captivated his schoolmates and his host
family in Baton Rouge with his charm and love of movement and dance.
He had arrived in America only two months before the shooting and had
planned to spend the school year in Louisiana.

On October 17, 1992, Yoshihiro Hattori and Webb Haymaker were on
their way to a Halloween party for Japanese exchange students in a
quiet neighborhood in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Arriving at the home
that they thought was the site of the party, they rang the doorbell
and waited. Because the front lawn of the modest brick ranchstyle home
was festively arrayed with Halloween decorations, they assumed that
they had found the right place. When no one appeared to answer the
door, they started back for the car in disappointment.

Yoshihiro Hattori and his friend, Webb Haymaker, then turned back towards the
house upon hearing the carport door open behind them. Instead of
seeing the party's host, these two boys were greeted by a " 'Freeze' "
and a .44 Magnum-carrying Rodney Peairs. Yoshihiro, thinking he had
found the party after all, stepped towards Mr. Peairs and said, "
'We're here for the party' ". Webb Haymaker then found himself
standing over his dying friend, Yoshihiro Hattore, a victim of
unintentional homicide.
The word "freeze" sounds like "please" for Japanese people.
When Yoshi Hattori failed to respond to the command "freeze!" - a
word he didn't understand - Rodney Peairs pointed a .44-caliber Magnum
handgun at the student?s white John Travolta-style disco costume and
pulled the trigger.
In Baton Rouge, Rodney Peairs, the homeowner who gunned down Yoshi
Hattori,a man who had been raised on a part of the American
dream that the missionaries hadn?t mentioned was indicted by a grand jury.
He was charged with manslaughter and put on trial in May. The jury, apprently convinced that Peairs was well within his rights to blow away an inquiring
teenager, deliberated for just over three hours before acquitting
him.
The parents of Yoshihiro Hattori, the Japanese
exchange student killed by a Louisiana homeowner, were awarded
$650,000 in damages and funeral costs.
Judge Bill Brown, who heard the civil case without a jury, said there
was "no justification whatsoever" for the killing .

Clinton to meet parents of Japanese boy shot in U.S.
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton will meet with the parents of
Yoshihiro Hattori, a Japanese high school exchange student who was
shot dead in the United States.

Source - http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=369397

Sure sounds like a deadbeat, drunken student engaging in break-ins, as
painted by Seth, doesn't it.

The parents should sue Seth for defamation and libel, never mind the
obvious racism.
But then, Seth has already announced HIS fantasy of shooting people
on his doorstep, whom he considers a "threat", such as tax collectors,
sick, starving children....
I suppose it helps make up for penis size deficiencies.

[Rum]

Well nobody much takes anything Seth says seriously anyway.

[maiforpeace]

Well nobody much takes anything Seth says seriously anyway.

The man who cries, then kills wolf.

[egbert]

Well nobody much takes anything Seth says seriously anyway.

Hopefully! There's a difference between a little trolling fun and malicious pathological lying.

[Seth]

Whopper of the Month:

The "white guy in Louisana" didn't shoot the Japanese exchange student merely because the student went to the wrong house by mistake, he shot the student because the drunken, violent Japanese exchange student at the wrong house tried to break into the white guy's house repeatedly, and despite being told many times he would be shot if he didn't desist, and despite being presented with a frightened homeowner visibly armed with a handgun, the
drunken, violent Japanese student continued to advance on the homeowner in a manner which reasonably lead the homeowner to believe his life, or his wife's life, was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury, which justified his firing his gun.
Lesson: Don't get drunk and wander about in the wee small hours of the morning in places unfamiliar to you, and don't try to violently break into any house anywhere, especially in the United States, because it'll likely get you justifiably shot dead.

Here's the Truth:

Well, the half-truth. Here's the truth from the New York Times:

"This is not an American or Oriental or any other known being casually walking up to the front door and saying, 'Hello, we're looking for the party,' " Mr. Unglesby said in his opening statement. "That's not what happened."

It was Yoshi Hattori's walk that made him, that dark night, frightening in the lawyer's telling. "Yoshi had an extremely unusual way of moving," Mr. Unglesby told the jury. "It's been described as aggressive. It's been described as kinetic. It's been described as antsy.

"It's been described as scary," Mr. Unglesby concluded. "He would come right up to you, as fast as he could."
...
She "screamed" for her husband to get his gun, Mr. Unglesby said. The boys had meanwhile walked to the sidewalk, 10 yards away. They heard the door at the end of the adjacent carport open. Mr. Peairs, in the prosecutor's telling, was not inside his house, but just outside the doorway of the carport. Yoshi Hattori began walking toward him, the district attorney said.

Mr. Haymaker heard Rodney Peairs shout "freeze." He saw that Mr. Peairs was holding a large gun. But the victim apparently did not see the gun, and he did not understand the word "freeze." 'Something Bad Wrong'

He was acting in a way no American would ever act, the defendant's lawyer said.

Mr. Peairs knew "there's something bad wrong," Mr. Unglesby told the jury today. " 'This person is not afraid of my gun. He's not respectful of my property. He has no fear whatever.' That's what Rodney Peairs knew." Source: http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/21/us/de ... d=2&src=pm

Acquittal in Doorstep Killing of Japanese Student
Published: May 24, 1993

A jury today found a local meat market manager not guilty in the fatal shooting of a Japanese exchange student, ending a case that exposed major differences between the attitudes of Japanese and Americans toward guns.
The focus of Mr. Unglesby's defense was that Mr. Peairs had acted reasonably as a frightened homeowner in shooting Mr. Hattori when the young man rushed toward him that night while trying to find the party. "We have two people colliding from completely different perspectives," Mr. Unglesby said, "one who sees an intruder who is a danger to his family, who sees a person with a grin or smile on his face coming to his house with absolutely no respect for his home, his gun, or his warning."
During those moments, the suburban household was in turmoil and terror, according to testimony. Without exchanging any words with his wife, Mr. Peairs responded to her frightened demand that he get his gun. He pulled a loaded .44-caliber Magnum revolver from his suitcase, went to the door of his carport, opened it, and fired at Mr. Hattori after the boy failed to heed his warning to "freeze."

Just then, Mrs. Peairs spotted Mr. Hattori coming around a corner. "He was coming real fast towards me," she testified. "I had never had somebody come at me like that before. I was terrified."

The young man spoke little English. Partly out of frustration, partly out of a desire to communicate instantly, testimony indicated, he often rushed up to people, waving his arms, which is what he did that night.

When Mrs. Peairs called her husband to get his gun, Mr. Peairs said he did not ask any questions. Rushing to a back room, he retrieved his revolver.

Running to the carport door, he spotted someone coming from behind one of his parked cars "real fast," he testified. He said he pointed the gun and yelled "freeze" to the two teen-agers, but he said Mr. Hattori kept coming. Mr. Peairs testified that he saw Mr. Hattori holding something in one of his outstretched arms -- a camera, it was later learned.

Mr. Hattori may not have noticed the gun because he had lost a contact lens earlier, his father said.

"I wanted him to stop," Mr. Peairs testified. "He didn't. He kept coming. The next thing I remember, I was scared to death. This person was not going to stop. This person was going to do harm to me." With the young man less than five feet away, he fired one shot into his chest.

"I felt I had no choice," Mr. Peairs said. "I couldn't understand why this person wouldn't stop."

The jury acquitted him, which means that it's your version of the incident that's a lie.

[Woodbutcher]

That's so fucking idiotic it could only happen in an uncivilised country. I guess he had a jury of his peers, paranoid assholes.

[Seth]

That's so fucking idiotic it could only happen in an uncivilised country. I guess he had a jury of his peers, paranoid assholes.

Let's see if you feel the same when someone breaks into your house and rapes your wife and children in front of you, as you sit duct-taped to a chair because you were rendered defenseless by deliberate action by your own government. Get back to me...if you survive and don't get your throat slit to eliminate you as a witness when they're done tormenting your family.

Me, I'll take the Castle Doctrine any time. It actually enhances civilized conduct because it puts uncivilized people on notice that uncivilized behavior will not be tolerated.

[mistermack]

Maybe the Japanese will learn something from this.
If you go to live with pigs, you are likely to get shat on.

[devogue]

The word "freeze" sounds like "please" for Japanese people.
When Yoshi Hattori failed to respond to the command "freeze!" - a
word he didn't understand - Rodney Peairs pointed a .44-caliber Magnum
handgun at the student?s white John Travolta-style disco costume and
pulled the trigger.

I'm so ronery [BANG!!!]

[Santa_Claus]

Was he Jewish?

[devogue]

Was he Jewish?

No, you're thinking about Gawd. This is Seth.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Was he Jewish?

No, you're thinking about Gawd. This is Seth.

Seth's the Rainbow guy, right? Gay rights?

[devogue]

Was he Jewish?

No, you're thinking about Gawd. This is Seth.

Seth's the Rainbow guy, right? Gay rights?

No that's Devogay, who was Lozzer.

But he hates liberal Jewish banjos, so there's a bit of a crossover.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Was he Jewish?

No, you're thinking about Gawd. This is Seth.

Seth's the Rainbow guy, right? Gay rights?

No that's Devogay, who was Lozzer.

But he hates liberal Jewish banjos, so there's a bit of a crossover.

Okay, he's the curmudgeon right-wing babble-generator. Now I remember.

Back to this Lozzer guy, I heard he really sucks.

[Woodbutcher]

That's so fucking idiotic it could only happen in an uncivilised country. I guess he had a jury of his peers, paranoid assholes.

Let's see if you feel the same when someone breaks into your house and rapes your wife and children in front of you, as you sit duct-taped to a chair because you were rendered defenseless by deliberate action by your own government. Get back to me...if you survive and don't get your throat slit to eliminate you as a witness when they're done tormenting your family.

Me, I'll take the Castle Doctrine any time. It actually enhances civilized conduct because it puts uncivilized people on notice that uncivilized behavior will not be tolerated.

Now you are presenting a totally different scenario. In Florida all the man had to do was to lock his door, not run out with his handgun. If someone breaks into my house and violates my family, he would be hunted down and shot. Or beaten to death with a machete preferably. The chances of violent intrusions in Canada are much less due to our gun laws restricting handgun ownership. Yes, criminals can still get a handgun. But not every fucking paranoid can, and that is the point. We don't have ordinary people shooting ordinary people because they thought the other person spoke funny or walked aggressively. I don't need a handgun. I can off a person with a hammer if I need to. But I don't think that will ever be necessary. My beef with the Florida decision is with the jury. I guess the main reason that happened is the amount of crime in the area and xenophobia. If a person looks different they are immediately labelled a threat, armed and dangerous. I suppose there it is largely true. I like the US, I just don't like all the people in it. I suppose you like even less of the population than I do. I happen to agree with a lot of your beliefs, but I like to see controls in place.