Mubarak or the Muslim Brotherhood: who are you rooting for?

[Warren Dew]

So who would you rather see ruling Egypt - the Muslim Brotherhood, or Mubarak and a successor from the military?

[JimC]

So, are we pessimistically assuming that these are the only choices, and that the whole "people power" thing won't throw up a genuine, non-fundamentalist, non-military alternative from left field?

[Gawd]

I am rooting for the Muslim Brotherhood. Mubarak is just another American puppet and tool used by the Americans to put down Middle Eastern people. As history has shown, the Americans will invade you and bomb you if the person/group who gets elected doesn't toe the American line to the T. We need the Muslim Brotherhood to push back the American plague in the area. The Americans are the ones who finance and keep Mubarak in power.

[Clinton Huxley]

Jim excepted, there is a lack of imagination in this thread.

[Gawd]

Al Jazeera just showed some interviews with Egyptians where they lamblast the Americans for keeping Mubarak in power and helping to kidnap and torture Egyptians off the street.

[JimC]

Al Jazeera just showed some interviews with Egyptians where they lamblast the Americans for keeping Mubarak in power and helping to kidnap and torture Egyptians off the street.

Mubarak's day is probably up, and it has been a fairly oppressive regime, though not really up there with the worst. It is also true he has been an American ally.

However, the medieval fanaticism of the Muslim Brotherhood is a very unappealing alternative...

For the record, Gawd, here you are posting on an atheist site, and yet virtually none of your posts have touched on religion. We know you are violently anti-Israel, and anti-USA, and never seem to have a bad word to say about the islamic fundamentalists busily conducting suicide bombings, and stoning infidels and adulterers to death.

Are you a muslim, or an atheist?

[Rum]

It isn't an either/or, as Jim says. There is a strong liberal/democratic thread in Egyptian society irrespective of the American relationship.

We better hope so. If Egypt goes 'Islamic', I would predict war with Israel within two years.

[Gawd]

Al Jazeera just showed some interviews with Egyptians where they lamblast the Americans for keeping Mubarak in power and helping to kidnap and torture Egyptians off the street.

Mubarak's day is probably up, and it has been a fairly oppressive regime, though not really up there with the worst. It is also true he has been an American ally.

However, the medieval fanaticism of the Muslim Brotherhood is a very unappealing alternative...

For the record, Gawd, here you are posting on an atheist site, and yet virtually none of your posts have touched on religion. We know you are violently anti-Israel, and anti-USA, and never seem to have a bad word to say about the islamic fundamentalists busily conducting suicide bombings, and stoning infidels and adulterers to death.

Are you a muslim, or an atheist?

None of my posts touch on religion? Then what the hell have I been talking about in the "I hate Israel" sub-forum? And I also haven't talked about African dictatorships. I muuuuuuuuuuuuust be African.

[JimC]

It isn't an either/or, as Jim says. There is a strong liberal/democratic thread in Egyptian society irrespective of the American relationship.

We better hope so. If Egypt goes 'Islamic', I would predict war with Israel within two years.

That is very true about the liberal/democratic and definitely secular side of Egyptian society, from all I have read. In addition, there are many, many educated but unemployed young people who are expressing a deep sense of frustration and stagnation in their lives, it seems. In other places, it is precisely these disaffected youth that have been swept into the embrace of islamic fundamentalism. One hopes that secular Egypt can prevail...

However, I have a side-bet on a military coup, with the generals stepping in to "restore order"

[Gawd]

It isn't an either/or, as Jim says. There is a strong liberal/democratic thread in Egyptian society irrespective of the American relationship.

We better hope so. If Egypt goes 'Islamic', I would predict war with Israel within two years.

War is the only thing Israel understands.

[JimC]

Al Jazeera just showed some interviews with Egyptians where they lamblast the Americans for keeping Mubarak in power and helping to kidnap and torture Egyptians off the street.

Mubarak's day is probably up, and it has been a fairly oppressive regime, though not really up there with the worst. It is also true he has been an American ally.

However, the medieval fanaticism of the Muslim Brotherhood is a very unappealing alternative...

For the record, Gawd, here you are posting on an atheist site, and yet virtually none of your posts have touched on religion. We know you are violently anti-Israel, and anti-USA, and never seem to have a bad word to say about the islamic fundamentalists busily conducting suicide bombings, and stoning infidels and adulterers to death.

Are you a muslim, or an atheist?

None of my posts touch on religion? Then what the hell have I been talking about in the "I hate Israel" sub-forum? And I also haven't talked about African dictatorships. I muuuuuuuuuuuuust be African.

Most of your anti-Israel posts have been about the oppression of palestinians by Israel. Sure, some have been about the nasty side of the rabbis, too, but that is a specific attack which a mad mullah would be happy to agree with, not an anti-religious statement as such...

Are you going to dodge my question, or give us an answer?

[Rum]

It isn't an either/or, as Jim says. There is a strong liberal/democratic thread in Egyptian society irrespective of the American relationship.

We better hope so. If Egypt goes 'Islamic', I would predict war with Israel within two years.

War is the only thing Israel understands.

I can just see you chuckling away to your prejudiced unattractive little self at all this.

[JimC]

It isn't an either/or, as Jim says. There is a strong liberal/democratic thread in Egyptian society irrespective of the American relationship.

We better hope so. If Egypt goes 'Islamic', I would predict war with Israel within two years.

War is the only thing Israel understands.

Unfortunately for their arab neighbours, they understand it extremely well...

[Gawd]

Al Jazeera just showed some interviews with Egyptians where they lamblast the Americans for keeping Mubarak in power and helping to kidnap and torture Egyptians off the street.

Mubarak's day is probably up, and it has been a fairly oppressive regime, though not really up there with the worst. It is also true he has been an American ally.

However, the medieval fanaticism of the Muslim Brotherhood is a very unappealing alternative...

For the record, Gawd, here you are posting on an atheist site, and yet virtually none of your posts have touched on religion. We know you are violently anti-Israel, and anti-USA, and never seem to have a bad word to say about the islamic fundamentalists busily conducting suicide bombings, and stoning infidels and adulterers to death.

Are you a muslim, or an atheist?

None of my posts touch on religion? Then what the hell have I been talking about in the "I hate Israel" sub-forum? And I also haven't talked about African dictatorships. I muuuuuuuuuuuuust be African.

Most of your anti-Israel posts have been about the oppression of palestinians by Israel. Sure, some have been about the nasty side of the rabbis, too, but that is a specific attack which a mad mullah would be happy to agree with, not an anti-religious statement as such...

Are you going to dodge my question, or give us an answer?

I will give you a straightforward answer: I am Muslim. I am the Prophet Muhammed. I am also an imam. I am the son of Osama bin Laden.

[Gawd]

It isn't an either/or, as Jim says. There is a strong liberal/democratic thread in Egyptian society irrespective of the American relationship.

We better hope so. If Egypt goes 'Islamic', I would predict war with Israel within two years.

War is the only thing Israel understands.

I can just see you chuckling away to your prejudiced unattractive little self at all this.

That I have the "Audacity of Hope" for Israel to be contained?