Guns used for lawful self defense

[Gallstones]

Is it wrong that I'm pro gun because I love to shoot the hell out of paper silhouettes and cans and fruits and old appliances?

No.
You're normal, in a crazy kind of way. But it's a good kind of crazy.

[Gallstones]

Pro human life? Man, I've become jaded, callous and cynical about the value of yahoo life for' longer than half my life... It's a shame, but there are quite a lot of bipeds that I don't classify as humans, even though a naturalist would put them in the genus homo, and the life of a chav or other noxious brainless pest is valueless to me as soon as the critter becomes a nuisance... so if I ever need to defend myself against such, I do prefer to have lethal force available at once than risk my life and limb waiting for socially approved wielders of force, many of whom are not worth a whit more than the ones bothering me, to come to my help, if they do.

[Gallstones]

The problem with the self defense logic is that hand guns kill a lot more people who are members of the family, than they save. So the self defense logic fails in line with the numbers.

If you rely on non firearm methods of defense, meaning your brain (if you have one), then the probability of your family members surviving actually increases. Having a hand gun in the home increases the odds of murder and suicide.

Some family deserve to be shot.

I also think that suicide should be excluded from the argument.
It isn't of equal status as murder.

In all of my life, with all the guns around, no one in my family was ever shot by one or killed or used one for suicide. Ever.

The prevelance of gun ownership in my community is quite high 61%, and yet gun murders are a very tiny occurrence. It has been decades since the last one.

[pErvinalia]

Gallstones, why do you quote other people's comments without adding anything? It drives me batty!

[pErvinalia]

I didn't want to enter this debate, but I agree with GS about the suicide thing. Why is suicide considered a bad thing? I thought most enlightened thinkers agreed that it is religious nonsense to paint suicide as a bad thing.

[Gallstones]

Gallstones, why do you quote other people's comments without adding anything? It drives me batty!

Sounds like a personal problem.


It's an affrimation. A

[Gallstones]

I haven't seen or heard a good argument from the anti-gun camp yet.

Fear.
All they have is fear.

[Svartalf]

Well, at least they understand that the defenceless feel when faced with the possibility of aggression. What I don't get is why they want everybody to be defenceless, and keep the risk the same when aggressors might use other implements, or just break the law, instead of wanting everybody to be able to protect themselves and those they care about.

[Gallstones]

Admittedly my argument carries little weight with those people who do not care about other people being hurt and dying. It carries weight only with people who actually care.

What do you know about what any of us care about?

[Gallstones]

Fuck you.

You fucking wish.

Not really. I'd rather vomit.
Fuck you means do it to yourself.

Will you ladies reconcile if I tell you I want to fuck you both, together or separately as you'll prefer?

I like you.
I hate her.

[pErvinalia]

Gallstones, why do you quote other people's comments without adding anything? It drives me batty!

Sounds like a personal problem.


It's an affrimation. A

How is anyone supposed to know it is an affirmation without an affirmation attached? It looks simply like a posting failure. i.e. accidentally hitting return. Why not make it clear and put an affirmation in like everyone else does?

[amused]

[JimC]

We are not amused...

We are JimC!

(or that's what the majority of the voices say, anyway...)

[Blind groper]

Didn't read the link, did you?

Totally true.

I went to the United Nations web site to find out the correct version. I suggest that you might like to try the same thing. It is always better to find out from the original rather than the much re-interpreted version placed by people with agendas.

Congratulations, Gallstones, by the way. You are doing a great job of emulating Seth. It will not take long before you, too, are banned from Rationalia for unrestrained insults and obscenities.
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[pErvinalia]

Is Seth banned?