The Coronavirus Thread

[Scot Dutchy]

things not going so well in wooden shoes land

Netherlands to impose partial lockdown to halt COVID-19 surge: Report
FILE PHOTO: A general view shows a street during a curfew following the COVID-19 outbreak in Amsterdam, Netherlands, Jan 23, 2021. (Reuters/Piroschka Van De Wouw)
12 Nov 2021 02:14PM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/n ... ge-2308926

What fucking rag are you now reading? There is no curfew or partial lockdown. That is what the dictators want but nothing is decided. The Tweedekamer decides and nobody else. The Kabinet can make recommendations but ofcourse living in a chumocracy you will never understand.

[Tero]

So never then?

No thanks. I'm vaccinated as are the kids. We've done more than most nearby to be safe. But the strain of thinking about covid and the constant adjustments are taking their toll.

I'm just going to get back to normal now, thanks.

Never. We will get annual shots.

When The Washington Post recently asked Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University, when the pandemic would end, she replied: “It doesn’t end. We just stop caring. Or we care a lot less.” She added, “I think for most people, it just fades into the background of their lives.”

I realize that answer may sound jarring, but the alternative — a society permanently dominated by Covid — is jarring, too. Eventually, the costs of organizing our lives around the virus will exceed the benefits. In some cases, we may have already reached that point.

NYT morning newsletter

[JimC]

Annual flu shots became absolutely normal, and saved many lives around the world. An annual covid shot (perhaps even combined with a flu shot) will become the new norm. The question that remains is whether there will be some sort of mandate or indirect pressure to take it. There wasn't for the flu in general (other than some very specific requirements for workers in old people's homes to have the flu jab)

[Brian Peacock]

We'll see what happens with the next pandemic.

[JimC]

We'll see what happens with the next pandemic.

I think that there is some cause for optimism. A lot has been learned this time, and in particular, we now know how to make mRNA vaccines - vaccine production for a novel virus should be pretty speedy...

[macdoc]

The mRNA vaccine was designed within 48 hours of the Chinese releasing the genome. They did it on their laptops. It's quite a story but of course a couple decades of underlying work leading up to that.
Ramping to approval and production is a different issue tho hard to see how it could be faster given that most vaccines take years of trials to get approved and the one good thing the dumpf did was cut the red tape and open the public purse to get the impossible fast tracked.

Without Delta I'd guess we'd just about be through it.....with Delta ....who the fuck knows
Way more scared now than Jan 2020.

[Tero]

It does not take but days to isolate any virus. Sequencing is not difficult.

[Woodbutcher]

I think that we are the virus Mother Earth is trying to get rid of. These different strains of covid-19 are her self-administered vaccines.

[macdoc]

It does not take but days to isolate any virus. Sequencing is not difficult

Designing a vaccine for it in 48 hours on a computer is difficult and having it work even more incredible. There was luck involved ....prepared mind n'all.

[JimC]

It almost certainly has to be both an easier and quicker process now than before.

[JimC]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-13/ ... /100618200

Caretaker Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has announced a three-week partial lockdown amid surging COVID-19 cases in the Netherlands, saying his government wants to "deliver a hard blow to the virus".

Mr Rutte described it as "a very unpleasant message with very unpleasant and far-reaching decisions".

The lockdown, which begins Saturday night Dutch time, is the first to start in western Europe since a new wave of infections began surging across parts of the continent.

Under the lockdown, bars, restaurants and supermarkets will have to close at 8pm, professional sports matches will be played in empty stadiums and people are being urged to work from home as much as possible. Stores selling non-essential items will have to close at 6pm.

As Mr Rutte spoke, police in The Hague said they arrested a number of people for setting off fireworks while protesting in a nearby street.

[pErvinalia]

Dutchy will be out in the streets rioting in protest.

[Tero]

When your temporary absence as union worker does not quite work out.

They should deny him any death benefit.

[Brian Peacock]

I think he's probably past caring.

[macdoc]

Oh my lockdown lite in tulip land sound dire....

Covid: Dutch accept life within 'lockdown-lite'
By Anna Holligan
BBC News, Amsterdam

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59274688