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Post by Azathoth » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:35 am

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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by DaveDodo007 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:38 am

Seth wrote:For those of you who doubt that the uber-left hard-line Marxist terrorists are, have been and intend to infiltrate our schools, there's this from the murderous William Ayers...who ought to be in prison or executed 30 years ago.
Bill Ayers: The Left Must Utilize Its ‘Absolute Access’ to America’s Classrooms

Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:50pm by Jason Howerton


Bill Ayers Says the Lefts Power Lies in Schools, Neighborhoods and Workplaces
schools and neighborhoods will help them shape the future of America.

Bill Ayers, former domestic terrorist-turned university professor, reemerged earlier this month to explain how the Left’s access to schools and neighborhoods will help them shape the future of America. Speaking at a New York University “Change the Stakes” meeting on Dec. 4, he said the Left must utilize the existing “movements on the ground.”

In the video, obtained by EAGnews.org, Ayers also first blasts conservatives for portraying President Barack Obama as a “secret Muslim” and a “secret sociopath,” running around with “terrorists and Arabs.” He lamented the fact that many liberals felt like Obama was “winking” at them while he portrayed himself as a compromising moderate – but Obama ended up disappointing the far left, according to Ayers.

“The same people, and I’m sure some of us in this room, are saying, ‘But the second term he’ll be free,’” he said. “Forget about it. That’s not where change comes from.”

“If we want change to come, we would do well not to look at the sites of power we have no access to; the White House, the Congress, the Pentagon,” Ayers added. “We have absolute access to the community, the school, the neighborhood, the street, the classroom, the workplace, the shop, the farm.”

“Why are we ignoring that and saying, ‘I hope Obama makes peace’?” he asked. “Forget about it. He’s not going to do anything if you don’t do something.”

“So, our job is movement building, [Obama's] job is governance and sitting in a chair of empire.”

Ayers first found fame for his involvement in plots to set off explosives at the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a police station, two Army recruiting stations and a New York judge’s home while his family slept inside. He is the main founder and leader of the now-defunct radical group, The Weather Underground.

As TheBlaze’s Tiffany Gabbay previously reported: “He is also the man who happened to help launch an ambitious community organizer’s political career into the stratosphere right from his apartment on Chicago’s South Side.” His name was Barack Obama.

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I don't see what the problem is here Seth. Marxism is a political stance, if you are for it defend it, if you are against critic it. There is nothing here that is brought down high from a god that must be obeyed. The market place of ideas and lets have at it. :smoke:
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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by Seth » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:44 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Seth wrote:For those of you who doubt that the uber-left hard-line Marxist terrorists are, have been and intend to infiltrate our schools, there's this from the murderous William Ayers...who ought to be in prison or executed 30 years ago.
Bill Ayers: The Left Must Utilize Its ‘Absolute Access’ to America’s Classrooms

Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:50pm by Jason Howerton


Bill Ayers Says the Lefts Power Lies in Schools, Neighborhoods and Workplaces
schools and neighborhoods will help them shape the future of America.

Bill Ayers, former domestic terrorist-turned university professor, reemerged earlier this month to explain how the Left’s access to schools and neighborhoods will help them shape the future of America. Speaking at a New York University “Change the Stakes” meeting on Dec. 4, he said the Left must utilize the existing “movements on the ground.”

In the video, obtained by EAGnews.org, Ayers also first blasts conservatives for portraying President Barack Obama as a “secret Muslim” and a “secret sociopath,” running around with “terrorists and Arabs.” He lamented the fact that many liberals felt like Obama was “winking” at them while he portrayed himself as a compromising moderate – but Obama ended up disappointing the far left, according to Ayers.

“The same people, and I’m sure some of us in this room, are saying, ‘But the second term he’ll be free,’” he said. “Forget about it. That’s not where change comes from.”

“If we want change to come, we would do well not to look at the sites of power we have no access to; the White House, the Congress, the Pentagon,” Ayers added. “We have absolute access to the community, the school, the neighborhood, the street, the classroom, the workplace, the shop, the farm.”

“Why are we ignoring that and saying, ‘I hope Obama makes peace’?” he asked. “Forget about it. He’s not going to do anything if you don’t do something.”

“So, our job is movement building, [Obama's] job is governance and sitting in a chair of empire.”

Ayers first found fame for his involvement in plots to set off explosives at the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a police station, two Army recruiting stations and a New York judge’s home while his family slept inside. He is the main founder and leader of the now-defunct radical group, The Weather Underground.

As TheBlaze’s Tiffany Gabbay previously reported: “He is also the man who happened to help launch an ambitious community organizer’s political career into the stratosphere right from his apartment on Chicago’s South Side.” His name was Barack Obama.

Source
I don't see what the problem is here Seth. Marxism is a political stance, if you are for it defend it, if you are against critic it. There is nothing here that is brought down high from a god that must be obeyed. The market place of ideas and lets have at it. :smoke:
Now there's a salient comment, for once. I quite agree.
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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by JimC » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:31 am

Seth wrote:

...anyone who subscribes to the Marxist dialectic, which is almost everyone here, to one degree or another...
What complete and utter bullshit.

Seriously.

EDIT - sometime, Seth, check out with an occasional poster who is our closest approximation to a Marxist (Sandinista) where he thinks most of this forum is in terms of the political spectrum...
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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by Seth » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:44 am

JimC wrote:
Seth wrote:

...anyone who subscribes to the Marxist dialectic, which is almost everyone here, to one degree or another...
What complete and utter bullshit.

Seriously.

EDIT - sometime, Seth, check out with an occasional poster who is our closest approximation to a Marxist (Sandinista) where he thinks most of this forum is in terms of the political spectrum...
Methinks he doth protest too much...
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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by Azathoth » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:21 am

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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by Jason » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:18 pm

Can we add ^^that as a forum feature? Affix it to all of Seth's posts. :teef:

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Post by Elderito » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:13 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:But surely, the whole concept of educating the unwashed masses is a Marxist plot! Surely, only the children of the wealthy, landed and Harvard-educated need ever be taught anything less rudimentary than how to use a spade or (for the more gifted) a telephone switchboard? :tea:
Actually that is how many on the right do see things. I picked up a copy of a religious book "The Gospel of Inclusion" by Carlton Pearson a heretical black Pentecostal preacher in which among many other things he laments and describes in detail the adoration of ignorance among fundamentalists. Generations of preachers needed "readers" in the congregation who would read aloud the scriptures, not merely as a dramatic device but as a necessity, because the preachers were illiterate. They rejoiced in the miracle of God helping an uneducated man preach through the spirit and wore their ignorance as a badge of courage. This spiritual reliance has lead to disdain for educated elites all through the right wing of American politics. It has taken form in Faux News with their disdain for education, in Republican politics "We won't let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers" and in...Seth's unabashed deceitfulness. Check the source link and the presented video to hear Bill Ayer's actual words you'll be surprised

So now the American right is full of ignorance and exploitation of it. :sulk:

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Post by Rum » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:19 pm

I think you will find this filed under propaganda.

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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by rasetsu » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:05 am

Robert_S wrote:Is there any evidence to suggest that communists have actually succeeded in filling our schools with Marxists? I mean to a greater degree than some other groups have succeeded in filling them with, say. Christo-fascist bible-based literalistic YEC folk?
Notice how Seth deftly avoided answering the question. You people need to do a better job of keeping his feet to the fire.



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Post by Tero » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:02 pm

Pete Seeger, known communist, has been in classrooms for decades


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Rum wrote:I think you will find this filed under propaganda.
Or under a wheelie bin.
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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by Jason » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:50 am

rasetsu wrote:
Robert_S wrote:Is there any evidence to suggest that communists have actually succeeded in filling our schools with Marxists? I mean to a greater degree than some other groups have succeeded in filling them with, say. Christo-fascist bible-based literalistic YEC folk?
Notice how Seth deftly avoided answering the question. You people need to do a better job of keeping his feet to the fire.
Why? He's like the Russian doll of bollocks.

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Re: Marxists in the classroom aren't a fiction

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:07 am

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rasetsu wrote:
Robert_S wrote:Is there any evidence to suggest that communists have actually succeeded in filling our schools with Marxists? I mean to a greater degree than some other groups have succeeded in filling them with, say. Christo-fascist bible-based literalistic YEC folk?
Notice how Seth deftly avoided answering the question. You people need to do a better job of keeping his feet to the fire.
Why? He's like the Russian doll of bollocks.
He's a parody.
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