Woman Shoots/kills knife-wielding intruder.

[Coito ergo sum]

A certain lady around here wants a handgun. She has started a six-month minimum training course before she gets one.

Isn't part of the fun of owning a gun the part about being educated as to its use and maintenance, and then using it to improve one's proficiency?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A certain lady around here wants a handgun. She has started a six-month minimum training course before she gets one.

Interesting. They opened a gun shop here in town, and I went in to look at them...I was thinking of doing the same thing. A long time ago I had a boyfriend who was really into guns and he took me to target practice which is pretty fun. We have a shooting range here in the Mountains that's pretty extensive and not too expensive.

Mishandling guns can lead to disaster, like the murder of wall heaters and such.

First thing here is a BB gun. Learning to swing the thing is first. She has to be able to draw a bead every time she swings it or she'd be dangerous with the real thing. When she's good at that we move on. When she can take the gun apart and put it back together without fail, we move on from there.

[maiforpeace]

A certain lady around here wants a handgun. She has started a six-month minimum training course before she gets one.

Interesting. They opened a gun shop here in town, and I went in to look at them...I was thinking of doing the same thing. A long time ago I had a boyfriend who was really into guns and he took me to target practice which is pretty fun. We have a shooting range here in the Mountains that's pretty extensive and not too expensive.

Mishandling guns can lead to disaster, like the murder of wall heaters and such.

First thing here is a BB gun. Learning to swing the thing is first. She has to be able to draw a bead every time she swings it or she'd be dangerous with the real thing. When she's good at that we move on. When she can take the gun apart and put it back together without fail, we move on from there.

This could be a really good fantasy, Zilla.

[MrJonno]

I disagree. Being "around" guns is not inherently dangerous, just like being "extremely uncomfortable" around knives or baseball bats would be a tad unreasonable.

Have to disagree with that, I generally try to minimise the time I spend around sharp knives. I certainly do use them but the second the need for it is over I generally do put them away and out of sight if possible. I also will never go within stabbing (or slipping distance) of someone who has such a knife either. Thats just common sense to me, you minimise your exposure to something that has no use and is potentially fatal ( A meat cleaver with no meat around has no use).

I would also never go within swinging distance of a baseball/cricket bat either if someone is holding one, beyond that distance they are harmless

MrJonno, I'm a gun owner. You're welcome to move in next door if you wish.

I've already told Laklak that if I had to live next to someone with a gun it would be him (He would still have to put a gun to my head to make me do it)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A certain lady around here wants a handgun. She has started a six-month minimum training course before she gets one.

Interesting. They opened a gun shop here in town, and I went in to look at them...I was thinking of doing the same thing. A long time ago I had a boyfriend who was really into guns and he took me to target practice which is pretty fun. We have a shooting range here in the Mountains that's pretty extensive and not too expensive.

Mishandling guns can lead to disaster, like the murder of wall heaters and such.

First thing here is a BB gun. Learning to swing the thing is first. She has to be able to draw a bead every time she swings it or she'd be dangerous with the real thing. When she's good at that we move on. When she can take the gun apart and put it back together without fail, we move on from there.

This could be a really good fantasy, Zilla.

You want me to "train" you too, dear?

[MrJonno]

Statistically speaking, you should be more scared of getting killed in a road accident than of getting shot dead. Or, to put it in your words, its perfectly reasonable to be extremely uncomfortable around any vehicles including those driven by the police. The fact that someone can drive a car and kill you dead in the blink of an eye makes it pretty obvious that it is utter bullshit to say that being close to guns is for most people one of the few times someone will be that close to death.

I don't drive but do go in cars sometimes. Cars at times have a vital use (most the time they don't and I get a bus/train) and even when in a car most of the time say driving at 30 mph in an empty street you are not near death even if the driver turns spins the wheel around and deliberately drives into a wall you are going to be ok. Generally however in a car its relatively difficult to klll yourself or someone else even if you really try. A 5 year old with no training and kill you in a fraction of second with a firearm

[Hermit]

Statistically speaking, you should be more scared of getting killed in a road accident than of getting shot dead. Or, to put it in your words, its perfectly reasonable to be extremely uncomfortable around any vehicles including those driven by the police. The fact that someone can drive a car and kill you dead in the blink of an eye makes it pretty obvious that it is utter bullshit to say that being close to guns is for most people one of the few times someone will be that close to death.

I don't drive but do go in cars sometimes. Cars at times have a vital use (most the time they don't and I get a bus/train) and even when in a car most of the time say driving at 30 mph in an empty street you are not near death even if the driver turns spins the wheel around and deliberately drives into a wall you are going to be ok. Generally however in a car its relatively difficult to klll yourself or someone else even if you really try. A 5 year old with no training and kill you in a fraction of second with a firearm

My point was that statistically speaking you are more likely to be killed by a motor vehicle than a firearm. If you fear being near firearms, you ought to fear being near motor vehicles even more.

[Gallstones]

I have that kind of strange feeling, too. Most burglars won't break in if someone's known to be home.

It would be kind of weird to break in with rape as the object if nobody was home, right?

I don't know what it is for sure, but something about how the guy was over there when the husband's funeral was taking place, and then came back another day. Something doesn't smell right.

Yea, I'm with Zilla on this one. Anyone with just burgling on their agenda would do their best to avoid running into someone.

What in the hell has Seth's sex life got to do with shooting people?
Let's get back on topic people---shooting intruders, guns.

Ask Seth, he's the one who wanted to advertise it.

You sure you aren't 16 yourself, Seth? All that bragging makes you sound like an adolescent. But hey, you do have class with a capital K, I'll give you that.

Any excuse is a good excuse I guess.
There is an old saying goes something like this--sayers aren't doers and doers don't say.

[FBM]

When I was in my early teens, I joined a Boy Scouts day camp about firearm safety. They taught me what I'd already learned from my family. Never, ever point a weapon, loaded or unloaded at or even in the general direction of another person. Even when I break a gun down to clean it, I lay the barrel down pointing away from anyone else who may be nearby.

Education and hands-on training work better than abolition. When firearm ownership is abolished, so will training in firearm safety. But firearms will still be available. That's just the reality in North America. The New World would never have been settled without them (not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, just history), and Americans came about their constitutional right to bear arms honestly through normal cultural evolution. Not through the efforts of some lunatic fringe element.

[Seth]

I have that kind of strange feeling, too. Most burglars won't break in if someone's known to be home.

It would be kind of weird to break in with rape as the object if nobody was home, right?

I don't know what it is for sure, but something about how the guy was over there when the husband's funeral was taking place, and then came back another day. Something doesn't smell right.

Yea, I'm with Zilla on this one. Anyone with just burgling on their agenda would do their best to avoid running into someone.

What in the hell has Seth's sex life got to do with shooting people?
Let's get back on topic people---shooting intruders, guns.

Ask Seth, he's the one who wanted to advertise it.

You sure you aren't 16 yourself, Seth? All that bragging makes you sound like an adolescent. But hey, you do have class with a capital K, I'll give you that.

Well, she makes me feel like an adolescent from time to time, when the arthritis medication is working right and the IBS isn't flaring up...

Anyway, I was just responding to the issues raised about her deceased husband's age...

Now, back to shooting intruders and guns.

[MrJonno]

My point was that statistically speaking you are more likely to be killed by a motor vehicle than a firearm. If you fear being near firearms, you ought to fear being near motor vehicles even more.

I don't like cars but use them as sometimes its unavoidable. If there was a vote on it I would vote to ban them but thats not going to happen. In London however the Mayor was elected on the basis of charging someone $15 a day to drive their car in central London so in big cities its certainly not impossible it might happen one day.

I've never seen a handgun outside a musuem at least in the UK in my entire life. I have seen a submachine gun at the airport and kept my distance like everyone else.

[Seth]

hoplophobes

Thanks for introducing me to this word, which is wankery of the highest order, suggesting that fear of deadly firearms is somehow fucking irrational. Brilliant.

You're welcome. Actually, the term was coined by the late Col. Jeff Cooper, one of America's most prominent advocates of armed self-defense and firearms training, and it means "those who have a paranoid phobic fear of an armed citizenry." And the fear of deadly firearms is fucking irrationality of the highest order, given the fact that they are inanimate objects that cannot harm anyone without being operated by a human being.

Now, a fear of human beings with the propensity to criminally attack others with deadly firearms is a rational fear, and the prudent solution to that threat is to carry a firearm for self defense, since at the moment that you are attacked, there will be no one else around to do it for you, and you really need to have equal or preferably superior firepower and skills to defend yourself or your children effectively, as the young woman in the OP very effectively demonstrates.

Trust an asshole to bring a knife to a gunfight.

[Audley Strange]

Sounds like Jonno's heading to inherit the earth.

[Gallstones]

What I am extremely uncomfortable being around is people coughing and sneezing without covering and without washing their hands. Those folks are dangerous to everyone around them.

A person has a greater likelihood of dying from a virus than a gunshot.

[Seth]

Same-same here. You point out the utter shit in the Bible and they say, "Nobody believes that anymore." Right. Cherry picking is fine when your god is purely in your head.

What's wrong with cherry-picking, pray tell? Is it not perfectly rational to pick through the cherries and pick the good, ripe ones and leave the hard, unripe ones behind?