US Philadelphia Student Carrying Legal Firearm Shoots It Out

[Gallstones]

Let's see, firing bullets at it didn't faze it but pepper spray, which could blow back on the moron depending on the direction of the breeze, never mind that the moron would have had to be well within no escape proximity to use the spray, would have prevented an attack.

Nope, I don't see the sense in that.

That's because you are ignorant of the facts. Nobody has EVER been killed by a bear, when they have been able to spray the bear. ( with proper bear spray, not the human version ).
Plenty of people have shot bears and still been killed.
An inconvenient truth?

Oh please.
Never EVER?

[Seth]

Gallstones, your Vet was a moron.
If he'd had a can of bear pepper spray, he would have been safer.
I've said before that a bullet won't stop a grizzly. That obviously applies to black bears as well.
Proper spray does.

What, exactly, do you know about grizzlies? Last I heard you live in a place where grizzlies don't. We live (and recreate) where bears DO live, so we know rather a lot more about them than you do.

And yes, bear spray is SOMETIMES effective, but it depends on a lot of things like the wind. If it's blowing against you, and you fire off a bear spray, all you're going to do is season yourself for the bear and make it easy for him to eat you because you will be choking and blind on the ground.

It also can't be effectively used at close range, like when the bear is munching on a leg or arm, whereas discharging 4 or 5 rounds into a bear's eye socket at point-blank range will always kill it, even when it IS munching on your leg or arm.

So, prudent people carry both, and use whichever one is appropriate for the situation.

[mistermack]

Well, A bullet didn't stop it then.

And if your bullet misses, it has even less chance. You can't miss with proper spray.

Yes you can miss with pepper spray--if you are downwind.

It would have to be blowing a gale. That stuff works well into the wind, it's a very high powered aerosol.
Anyway, I would have expected a vet to carry it. It doesn't stop you carrying a gun, you can have both. And it's safer with both. It also works on moose and elk.

[mistermack]

What, exactly, do you know about grizzlies? Last I heard you live in a place where grizzlies don't. We live (and recreate) where bears DO live, so we know rather a lot more about them than you do.

No you don't actually. I can tell from your posts that you're bullshitting. You give yourself away all the time.

[Gallstones]

Seth has killed at least one bear.
Ask him.

[JimC]

Seth has killed at least one bear.
Ask him.

"Killed him a bear when he was only three..."



Who will get the reference?

[Gallstones]

It is some guy's ballad.
Some guy who purportedly wore a coonskin hat.
Blazed trails for wagon trains and stuff.
A frontier hee-row.

[borealis]

[JimC]

It is some guy's ballad.
Some guy who purportedly wore a coonskin hat.
Blazed trails for wagon trains and stuff.
A frontier hee-row.

I used to watch that on TV when I was young and impressionable, along with various other US programs...

It left me with a lingering fondness for Americans, which has not disappeared in all these years of political disagreements...

[MrJonno]

Seth has killed at least one bear.
Ask him.

Is a bear a code for something?

[Tyrannical]

Grizzly bears are scary, I'd never set foot in bear country without at least a .45

[mistermack]

Grizzly bears are scary, I'd never set foot in bear country without at least a .45

You're a chicken. Don't drive, those trucks are scary.
When I'm in Bear country, I just take the bear essentials.

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[Seth]

What, exactly, do you know about grizzlies? Last I heard you live in a place where grizzlies don't. We live (and recreate) where bears DO live, so we know rather a lot more about them than you do.

No you don't actually. I can tell from your posts that you're bullshitting. You give yourself away all the time.

Really? How interesting then that my girlfriend saw a black bear in the neighbor's garbage can just a day before I left on my motorcycle trip (scared the crap out of her), and I spent three weeks riding around Montana, where Grizzlies live. Just missed seeing a mom Griz and her cubs playing in the Flathead River in Glacier National Park by about five minutes unfortunately.

I believe that you live in the UK. Perhaps I am mistaken about your location however, but I'm not mistaken about mine.

And Gallstones is quite right, I'm sitting in my office right now looking at the black bear skin (a lovely cinnamon-brown in this case) from the 250 pound bear I shot with my compound bow and arrow some years ago, from a distance of four yards. That was pretty exciting, looking a bear right in the face just before I loosed, but the really exciting part was crawling through the oak brush on hands and knees, .45 in one hand, following blood sign looking for a wounded bear. That gets your heart rate into the aerobic zone in a matter of seconds.

So, I'll stick with reality, thanks. You can remain in your fantasy land for as long as you like though.

[Pensioner]

I love fishing, nothing better than fly fishing in Scotland for trout and salmon, luckily we do not have Bears wandering about the place, if we did I would take a fucking big gun rather than a big canister of bear spray.