An independent Scotland?

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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by ronmcd » Sat May 25, 2013 7:17 pm

Rum wrote:Of course I do. But if you go your own way we want our radio back! Yours is terrible. All reels and fucking bagpipes!
My understanding is Westminister will want it's air back as well, with long protracted negotiations on per capita or GDP split expected. It's all just so complicated ... best not to bother, I think.

Genuine question the Better Together campaign demanded the "separatists" answer: "What will Scotland's international dialing code be?"

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Post by Rum » Sat May 25, 2013 7:27 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Rum wrote:
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Rum wrote:While we were driving around the lovely borders area just over the border in Scotland today we had BBC Radio 4, BBC Radio 3 (classical music) and briefly BBC Radio 2 (non teens pop). We pay a license for these services amounting to about £150 a year.

I'm therefore assuming that if they win the independence vote all BBC transmitters in Scotland will be turned off. :tea:
No.
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Why would they turn them off if they're getting money? If the money stops, they'll turn them off. But I'm betting there will be some kind of arrangement made.
I don't see why it should. We don't have one with France.

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Post by ronmcd » Sat May 25, 2013 7:28 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Why would they turn them off if they're getting money? If the money stops, they'll turn them off. But I'm betting there will be some kind of arrangement made.
Exactly. Everything is being painted as incredibly difficult and uncertain now, none of it will be a problem once the decision is made.

Since I have the opportunity, I dont suppose anyone read former Chancellor Denis Healey's interview with Holyrood magazine this week? Probably not. It was all over the media here in Scotland ... no, wait, thats wrong, it was pretty much ignored by the media here in Scotland. Hmm.
"I think we did underplay the value of the oil to the country because of the threat of nationalism but that was mainly down to Thatcher."

"yes, I think they [Westminster politicians] are concerned about Scotland taking the oil, I think they are worried stiff about it."

"I think we would suffer enormously if the income from Scottish oil stopped but if the Scots want it [independence] they should have it and we would just need to adjust but I would think Scotland could survive perfectly well, economically, if it was independent. Yes, I would think so… with the oil.” I ask Healey what he thinks about claims that Scotland is subsidised by the rest of the UK given that Joel Barnett, he of the Barnett formula, was his deputy at the Treasury and worked out what share of the national income pot Scotland should receive. He says Scotland “pays its fair share” and that “these myths” are simply perpetuated by those that oppose independence. On Scotland keeping the pound, he says Scotland would gain but adds that so “would the rest of us” and he doesn’t see why Westminster could say the Scots couldn’t have it."
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Post by ronmcd » Sat May 25, 2013 7:29 pm

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I don't see why it should. We don't have one with France.
Yeaaahhh. That makes no sense.

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Post by ronmcd » Sat May 25, 2013 7:31 pm

Scrumple wrote:I'm a quarter Scottish. Where does that leave me?
A quarter Scottish?

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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 25, 2013 8:04 pm

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Scrumple wrote:I'm a quarter Scottish. Where does that leave me?
A quarter Scottish?
Three quarters pleasant?
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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by ronmcd » Sat May 25, 2013 9:06 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Scrumple wrote:I'm a quarter Scottish. Where does that leave me?
A quarter Scottish?
Three quarters pleasant?
I don't understand what you mean.

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Post by mistermack » Sat May 25, 2013 9:07 pm

In N. Ireland, the people who want to stay in the UK are called loyalists.

Why aren't the SNP called the disloyalists?

I still think that Orkney and Shetlands should go for independence. After all, it must be better for Orkney and Shetland matters be decided in Orkney and Shetland, not hundreds of miles away in a Scottish Parliament.
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Post by Rum » Sat May 25, 2013 9:12 pm

mistermack wrote:In N. Ireland, the people who want to stay in the UK are called loyalists.

Why aren't the SNP called the disloyalists?

I still think that Orkney and Shetlands should go for independence. After all, it must be better for Orkney and Shetland matters be decided in Orkney and Shetland, not hundreds of miles away in a Scottish Parliament.
Your logic is flawless. Salmond is a twat.

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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by Svartalf » Sat May 25, 2013 9:14 pm

Duh, Orklands would just become a 4th world country overnight if they went independent... As it is, Scotland will not be that well off, though it should be able to go by.

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Post by Rum » Sat May 25, 2013 9:20 pm

OK then - he's a dick, OK? :tup:

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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by Svartalf » Sat May 25, 2013 9:27 pm

So am I.
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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by Rum » Sat May 25, 2013 9:28 pm

So ..be..it..

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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by klr » Sat May 25, 2013 9:35 pm

Rum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Rum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Rum wrote:While we were driving around the lovely borders area just over the border in Scotland today we had BBC Radio 4, BBC Radio 3 (classical music) and briefly BBC Radio 2 (non teens pop). We pay a license for these services amounting to about £150 a year.

I'm therefore assuming that if they win the independence vote all BBC transmitters in Scotland will be turned off. :tea:
No.
:think:
Why would they turn them off if they're getting money? If the money stops, they'll turn them off. But I'm betting there will be some kind of arrangement made.
I don't see why it should. We don't have one with France.
It's not just about terrestrial transmitters though. A lot of people here in Ireland are getting all the BBC, ITV and other "terrestrial" channels via Freesat. Are they paying for these channels? Of course not ...
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Re: An independent Scotland?

Post by Rum » Sat May 25, 2013 9:38 pm

In which case I am subsidising their entertainment! I demand a rebate!

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