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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by rainbow » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:55 am

Cunt wrote:
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Oh will you stop mindlessly parroting dumb right-wing talking points and just admit that you like the Electoral College because you have taken sides in the US culture war and your side demands that you support the Electoral College.
I expressed understanding of its function. Now that you mention it, I do support it.

Less government, less centralized sounds good, considering how good they are at doing stuff.
You've lost me there how does an extra bit of bureaucratic nonsense make less government?

...so in most of the civilised world people vote and the person getting the most votes becomes elected. Why do you want to centralise this process into an electoral college?

...just an extra step in moving the will of the people from electing the government they want.

Another point. Why are the Repugnicans and Trump against allowing the American citizens of Puerto Rico the right to vote for President?
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Post by Tero » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:35 pm

Trumpster fails with masks:
Lindell, who claims to have retrofitted about 75 percent of MyPillow’s manufacturing line to sew cloth masks, said the machinery and space he’d invested in now sits idle and empty. The CEO estimates he was able to offload about 5 percent of his mask inventory, and that all told, the operation cost his company and him personally a combined $7 million.
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Post by Seabass » Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:32 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Pence: “Instead of teaching all of our children to be proud of their country, critical race theory teaches children as young as kindergarten to be ashamed of their skin color. Critical race theory is racism, pure and simple – and it should be rejected by every American of every race.”

When he says 'our children', to that particular audience, we all know exactly what he means, don't we(?)

His point, such that it is, depends on fostering and promoting an understanding that skin colour denotes a distinct and discreet boundary between types of people, but one that goes beyond simply distinguishing between people by skin colour alone - e.g. white people are one type of people with certain and particular attributes and qualities, and black people are another, separate type of people etc.

This idea is given voice by his complaint that an examination of how notions of race have historically influenced or impacted the conditions or structures of current society should not be a source of shame, but nonetheless is being forwarded as something shameful - and that those feelings of humiliation or distress caused by an awareness of wrong or foolish behaviour are unjustified.

By complaining that (let's face it) white people are supposedly being made to feel ashamed of the social conditions, attitudes and actions of past generations Pence is admitting that there's something shameful about that past while at the same time saying that there's nothing people today should feel ashamed of - and where they might or do feel embarrassed or ashamed about the past (about their past, or 'our past' as white people, etc) this is an illegitimate and undue personal burden. To call this burden racism is to clam that it is unjustly prejudiced or biased against not just the people of the past but also against those who identify with them today. In a way he's complaining that because black people don't share the same kinds of shameful burdens from the past with white people then white people are being treated unfairly.

The question is, why should any person feel ashamed of the actions of others, whether historically or contemporaneously, unless one personally identifies with them and/or feels some kind of personal responsibility for their actions - and why would people identify with them and/or feel some kind of personal responsibility for their actions unless white people are all one type of people and black people another?

The other question is why can people like Pence not break their personal associations with generations past by acknowledging the historic and social conditions of those times and moving things forward to ensure that we all try and avoid future generations being ashamed of what we do today? But I think we all know the answer to that one, eh?
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Post by Seabass » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:09 am

Of course the truck has a Trump flag. I'd have been surprised if it didn't have a Trump flag.

Video shows truck vandalizing 'Pride Intersection' in Delray Beach
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:34 am

Trump was a liberal, though.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:08 am

... so liberal... the most liberal... more liberal than that nasty woman.
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Post by Tero » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:21 pm

Why doesn't Trump just himself booked to a Las Vegas hotel for a few months? Elvis did it in the end. More convenient.

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Post by Tero » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:14 pm

This is how you run a banana reoublic. Trump was an amateur.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:27 pm

That's insane.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:28 pm

Similar things happening in Egypt atm too.
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Post by Tero » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:32 am

They would not be in the statistics, because they would bevin Cuba.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:16 am

The conspiracy theory film made at the Arizona audit
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Post by Seabass » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:05 am

I'm sure our resident Canadian champion of free speech is disgusted by Trump's attempts to sick the government on a comedy show for making fun of him. :coffee:
Trump Wanted His Justice Department to Stop ‘SNL’ From Teasing Him

It was the middle of Donald Trump’s presidency, and he was—yet again—mad at Saturday Night Live. And he wanted the federal government to help him settle the score.

In March 2019, the then-president of the United States had just watched an episode of the long-running, liberal-leaning NBC sketch comedy series (it wasn’t even a new episode, it was a rerun), and grew immediately incensed that the show was gently mocking him.

“It’s truly incredible that shows like Saturday Night Live, not funny/no talent, can spend all of their time knocking the same person (me), over & over, without so much of a mention of ‘the other side,’” Trump tweeted, long before he was banned from Twitter for inspiring a violent mob. “Like an advertisement without consequences. Same with Late Night Shows. Should Federal Election Commission and/or FCC look into this?”

It was, on its face, a ridiculous question and threat, as SNL is obviously satire, and therefore a form of protected speech in America that pissed-off commanders-in-chief have no authority to directly subvert. However, then-President Trump went farther than simply tweeting his displeasure with the late-night comedians and SNL writers’ room. The internal discussions that followed, between the former leader of the free world and some of his political and legal advisers, once again underscored just how much Trump wanted to use the full weight and power of the U.S. government to punish his personal enemies.

According to two people familiar with the matter, Trump had asked advisers and lawyers in early 2019 about what the Federal Communications Commission, the courts systems, and—most confusingly to some Trump lieutenants—the Department of Justice could do to probe or mitigate SNL, Jimmy Kimmel, and other late-night comedy mischief-makers.
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