The Coronavirus Thread

[Tero]

Nigerians with chloroquin on hand for malaria self medicating after Trump speech:

Nigeria reported two cases of chloroquine poisoning after U.S. President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Health officials are warning Nigerians against self-medicating after demand for the drug surged in Lagos, a city that’s home to 20 million people. Two people were hospitalized in Lagos for chloroquine overdoses, Oreoluwa Finnih, senior health assistant to the governor of Lagos, said in an interview.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... aised-drug

[Scot Dutchy]

He is a fucking lunatic and needs to be locked up.

[Scot Dutchy]

Never heard of what? Trump, or America?

Shingles.

[Brian Peacock]

Shingles is a member of the chicken pox family of neuron infections. V painful. Some people say it can be more painful that child birth. FACT!

He is a fucking lunatic and needs to be locked up.

That's as it may be, but it's not held him back so far.

He's just said that the American people will grateful for the 'great job we're all doing' OWTTE. WTF?

[Brian Peacock]

Sorry, I had to turn him off. After reading from the list he started to extemporise.

[Svartalf]

Shingles is a member of the chicken pox family of neuron infections. V painful. Some people say it can be more painful that child birth. FACT!

He is a fucking lunatic and needs to be locked up.

That's as it may be, but it's not held him back so far.

He's just said that the American people will grateful for the 'great job we're all doing' OWTTE. WTF?

What I find weird is that it's actually the very same virus that causes chickenpox, and since I had that as a child, I wonder if I'm immune.

[Tero]

No you are not. It is like herpes, if you had chickenpox you still have it.

[NineBerry]

Shingles is a member of the chicken pox family of neuron infections. V painful. Some people say it can be more painful that child birth. FACT!

He is a fucking lunatic and needs to be locked up.

That's as it may be, but it's not held him back so far.

He's just said that the American people will grateful for the 'great job we're all doing' OWTTE. WTF?

What I find weird is that it's actually the very same virus that causes chickenpox, and since I had that as a child, I wonder if I'm immune.

It's actually the opposite. If you had chickenpox, you are much more likely to get shingles some time later as an adult than if you never had chicken pox.

[JimC]

Angela Merkel announces Germany-wide #COVID19 rules for next two weeks:
- Keep distance of min 1.5m
- No more than 2 people to meet in public

"No threesomes, we're German"

[Tero]

Wiki
Shingles occurs only in people who have been previously infected with VZV (chicken pox) although it can occur at any age, approximately half of the cases in the United States occur in those aged 50 years or older.[

[Seabass]

The Doctor Who Helped Defeat Smallpox Explains What's Coming
Epidemiologist Larry Brilliant, who warned of pandemic in 2006, says we can beat the novel coronavirus—but first, we need lots more testing.
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus ... miologist/

Q: We are being asked to do things, certainly, that never happened in my lifetime—stay in the house, stay 6 feet away from other people, don’t go to group gatherings. Are we getting the right advice?

Well, as you reach me, I'm pretending that I'm in a meditation retreat, but I'm actually being semi-quarantined in Marin County. Yes, this is very good advice. But did we get good advice from the president of the United States for the first 12 weeks? No. All we got were lies. Saying it’s fake, by saying this is a Democratic hoax. There are still people today who believe that, to their detriment. Speaking as a public health person, this is the most irresponsible act of an elected official that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. But what you're hearing now [to self-isolate, close schools, cancel events] is right. Is it going to protect us completely? Is it going to make the world safe forever? No. It's a great thing because we want to spread out the disease over time.

Q: Now that we've missed the opportunity for early testing, is it too late for testing to make a difference?

A: Absolutely not. Tests would make a measurable difference. We should be doing a stochastic process random probability sample of the country to find out where the hell the virus really is. Because we don't know. Maybe Mississippi is reporting no cases because it's not looking. How would they know? Zimbabwe reports zero cases because they don't have testing capability, not because they don't have the virus. We need something that looks like a home pregnancy test, that you can do at home.

[Brian Peacock]

UK government effectively take the rail network into public ownership. MaccyDees to close all their franchises. The Jet2 airline, which recently ceased trading despite a massive government bailout, issues unprecedented share dividend. Betting on future profits looks like it's going out the window with talk about Hong Kong, Japanese, and New York stock exchange shutdown. Government to give the police powers to force businesses to close and forcibly isolate 'The Infected'. The Army to secure the distribution of medical supplies.

• Between the desire
  And the spasm
  Between the potency
  And the existence
  Between the essence
  And the descent
  Falls the Shadow
  For Thine is the Kingdom
  
  For Thine is
  Life is
  For Thine is the
  
  This is the way the world ends
  This is the way the world ends
  This is the way the world ends
  Not with a bang but a whimper.
  
  -- The Hollow Man, T.S. Elliot

[rainbow]

Nigerians with chloroquin on hand for malaria self medicating after Trump speech:

Nigeria reported two cases of chloroquine poisoning after U.S. President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Health officials are warning Nigerians against self-medicating after demand for the drug surged in Lagos, a city that’s home to 20 million people. Two people were hospitalized in Lagos for chloroquine overdoses, Oreoluwa Finnih, senior health assistant to the governor of Lagos, said in an interview.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... aised-drug

Interestingly many people in Zambia and Malawi take a once per week dose. You can't take more or risk liver damage.
I wonder if it will slow Corona n those countries?

[Tero]

Now that we've missed the opportunity for early testing, is it too late for testing to make a difference?

Absolutely not. Tests would make a measurable difference. We should be doing a stochastic process random probability sample of the country to find out where the hell the virus really is. Because we don't know. Maybe Mississippi is reporting no cases because it's not looking. How would they know? Zimbabwe reports zero cases because they don't have testing capability, not because they don't have the virus. We need something that looks like a home pregnancy test, that you can do at home.

If you were the president for one day, what would you say in the daily briefing?

I would begin the press conference by saying "Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Ron Klain—he was the Ebola czar [under President Barack Obama], and now I’ve called him back and made him Covid czar. Everything will be centralized under one person who has the respect of both the public health community and the political community." We're a divided country right now. Right now, Tony Fauci [head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases] is the closest that we come to that.

Are you scared?

I'm in the age group that has a one in seven mortality rate if I get it. If you're not worried, you're not paying attention. But I'm not scared. I firmly believe that the steps that we're taking will extend the time that it takes for the virus to make the rounds. I think that, in turn, will increase the likelihood that we will have a vaccine or we will have a prophylactic antiviral in time to cut off, reduce, or truncate the spread. Everybody needs to remember: This is not a zombie apocalypse. It's not a mass extinction event.

The world is not going to begin to look normal until three things have happened. One, we figure out whether the distribution of this virus looks like an iceberg, which is one-seventh above the water, or a pyramid, where we see everything. If we're only seeing right now one-seventh of the actual disease because we're not testing enough, and we're just blind to it, then we're in a world of hurt. Two, we have a treatment that works, a vaccine or antiviral. And three, maybe most important, we begin to see large numbers of people—in particular nurses, home health care providers, doctors,

policemen, firemen, and teachers who have had the disease—are immune, and we have tested them to know that they are not infectious any longer. And we have a system that identifies them, either a concert wristband or a card with their photograph and some kind of a stamp on it. Then we can be comfortable sending our children back to school, because we know the teacher is not infectious.

And instead of saying "No, you can't visit anybody in nursing home," we have a group of people who are certified that they work with elderly and vulnerable people, and nurses who can go back into the hospitals and dentists who can open your mouth and look in your mouth and not be giving you the virus. When those three things happen, that's when normalcy will return.

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus ... ket-newtab

[Tero]