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Same as the EU.Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:08 pmLong words about nothing. There is no democracy in the USA. No two votes in different states has the same weight.
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when , depending on what state you dwell in, the value of your vote can go from 1 to 3, no, it's definitely not democratic. Democracy entails equality between citizens, the US system enshrines major inequalites.
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Well, there was that Princeton study a few years back that concluded that our government is far more responsive to special interest groups than voters, so yeah, "oligarchy" isn't too far from the mark, IMO.
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Let's not exaggerate. It's democratic system certainly has flaws, particularly in the weighting of votes, but it's a little absurd to go from that to "no democracy"...Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:08 pmLong words about nothing. There is no democracy in the USA. No two votes in different states has the same weight.
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Only in presidential elections, otherwise every vote is equal.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Like everyone gets to vote on which guns are allowed, or what kinds of hate speech should be banned.
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How about your Senate? Don't states get an equal number of senators each, regardless of their population?
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One person, one vote would have New York City ruling over vast swathes of farmland. Doesn't that seem a bit off-balance to you democracy-lovers?
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What does seem off balance is that anyone's vote be worth more than another...
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I don't know how to balance it, but I do know that it means that people living in remote communities have no voice, or they do have a voice, but it is drowned out by Montreal.
Are you really OK with Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver exerting authority over vast swaths of land none of them understand?
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Trump "won" by attracting 2,868,692 fewer votes than Clinton. You prefer the tyranny of the minority, I suppose. Yes, I know. 304 Electoral College votes to 227. Those are the rules. That's not democratic, though.
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I am definitely OK with 1 voter, 1 vote rather than one voter 0.8, 1.2 or whatever votes. democracy counts people, not square kilometres of land.
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It's not supposed to be democratic. It's supposed to be a republic instead.
Democracy would have the tyranny of the majority, Trump won because he won according to the rules. You can say that Hillary was statistically better at every campaign aspect - I'll even agree if it makes you feel better.
But Trump won the US election. Winning the popularity contest isn't what he was after.
If only he was an ineffective idiot, you could be complaining about Hillary right now.
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So you agree with Scott Dutchy, yes?Cunt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:35 amIt's not supposed to be democratic.
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