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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:15 pm

What about finding the head of a dead horse on your pillow?

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:16 pm

JimC wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:30 am
It sticks in my craw to some degree, they should fucking well get vaccinated, both for their own sakes and the community's, but pragmatically, if it works, then fine...
I noted that the mediocre/crappy mayor said that he personally believes that 'get vaccinated, get $100' will be effective. That made me wonder if they'd done any sort of research on what the response would be or if they just assumed the almighty dollar would produce results. In a way though it doesn't matter. Each person vaccinated is one less that might end up receiving extensive hospital care for covid-19, sometimes at the expense of the state of New York. I don't think it would take too many of them at a few $100 thousand per patient to cover the expense of the incentive.

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Post by Tero » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:11 am

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County is tracking the 250 sick people. One death from delta so far.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tyrannical » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:14 am

Seabass wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:17 pm
Get this guy some Ivermectin, stat!

https://www.mainepublic.org/politics/20 ... s-covid-19
Maine Lawmaker Who Opposed Coronavirus Restrictions Reportedly Has COVID-19

Rep. Chris Johansen, a Republican legislator from the Aroostook County town of Monticello who has been an outspoken opponent of coronavirus restrictions, has reportedly contracted COVID-19.

In a recording shared by Mainer News contributor Crash Barry, a man alleged to be Johansen said, “Listen up, I’ve got COVID and I’m really, really sick and I just don’t have time to talk to you today.”
An #antivax anti-mask, Covid-denier #Maine State Rep and his wife both have contracted COVID-19. Chris Johansen (R-Monticello) was one of 7 GOP lawmakers who refused to wear masks during the 2021 leg session and subsequently lost their committee assignments. #mepolitics pic.twitter.com/YOctshEbuW

— Crash Barry (@Crash_Barry) July 23, 2021
When contacted by the Bangor Daily News on Friday, Johansen said “I’m not talking” and hung up the phone.

“We do not respond or comment to the press on the health of our members or staff, instead preferring to honor their privacy. We are always open to comment on legislative policy and/or legislative procedural issues should the press choose to cover that,” Kathleen Dillingham, spokesperson and House Minority Leader, said.

The lawmaker’s wife, Cindy Johansen, who is the corresponding secretary-officer for the Aroostook County Republicans, shared on social media that she is sick with COVID-19.

Neither Chris Johansen nor his wife have received a coronavirus vaccination.

Cindy Johansen posted to her Facebook on July 16 that she had not been feeling well. “Feeling like I’m going to pass out. Have passed out on garage floor, legs were like rubber,” she said.

On July 21, she posted that she was diagnosed with “covid and asthma.” She shared that it was “horrible to be alone” and that she was “going on day three,” an allusion to the required isolation of COVID-19 patients who have been admitted to a hospital.

Chris Johansen has been an outspoken opponent of state-mandated coronavirus restrictions and has organized multiple protests. In April 2020, he organized a protest in front of the Blaine House asking Democratic Gov. Janet Mills to reopen the state’s economy, as well as downplaying the damage that the spread of COVID-19 would have on communities across the country.

A second protest organized later that month flouted pandemic gathering restrictions.

Johansen was also one of seven lawmakers who refused to wear masks at the Maine State House, a requirement that was left in place even after the state’s mask mandate was lifted as coronavirus vaccination rates started to improve throughout the state. Johansen was subsequently removed from his committee position, but continued to push back against State House rules.
Anyone in Maine may go to any pharmacy or grocery store with a pharmacy and without an appointment or cost to themselves get a covid shot.
Even Australian tourists.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 am

Our hospitalizations are higher now than surges last year, but there's no chance of lockdowns or even mask mandates. Let's hope these vaccines are good...
I was given a year of free milkshakes once. The year passed and I hadn’t bothered to get even one.

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Post by Hermit » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:10 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 am
Our hospitalizations are higher now than surges last year, but there's no chance of lockdowns or even mask mandates. Let's hope these vaccines are good...
...and enough people get themselves vaccinated to establish herd immunity. Without it it will never become controllable. Check out the resurgence of measles since Andrew Wakefield's fraudulent study in the effects of the MMR vaccine revived vaccine hesitancy.
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Post by JimC » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:48 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:16 pm
...they just assumed the almighty dollar would produce results...
Well, that is the American way... :tea:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:04 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:05 pm
Africa is all corruption so you cant see the wood for the trees sunshine.
Nonsense. Who bribed you to say that?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:40 am

rainbow wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:04 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:05 pm
Africa is all corruption so you cant see the wood for the trees sunshine.
Nonsense. Who bribed you to say that?
:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
You claim that Africa is not corrupt?

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:50 am

The Neanderthal factor
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/9/e2026309118
that paper does not agree with most, as it is generally believed we Neanderthals are at more risk when we get the disease. Note: the papers deal with different chromosomes.
A recent genetic association study1 identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative)2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:05 am

related
https://www.genomeweb.com/infectious-di ... QPdHo5Kgxk

I got to read it once, then it went to "register for free"

I think it was summarizing this
A genomic region associated with protection against severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neandertals
March 2021Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 118(9):e2026309118
DOI:10.1073/pnas.2026309118
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It was recently shown that the major genetic risk factor associated with becoming severely ill with COVID-19 when infected by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is inherited from Neandertals. New, larger genetic association studies now allow additional genetic risk factors to be discovered. Using data from the Genetics of Mortality in Critical Care (GenOMICC) consortium, we show that a haplotype at a region on chromosome 12 associated with requiring intensive care when infected with the virus is inherited from Neandertals. This region encodes proteins that activate enzymes that are important during infections with RNA viruses. In contrast to the previously described Neandertal haplotype that increases the risk for severe COVID-19, this Neandertal haplotype is protective against severe disease. It also differs from the risk haplotype in that it has a more moderate effect and occurs at substantial frequencies in all regions of the world outside Africa. Among ancient human genomes in western Eurasia, the frequency of the protective Neandertal haplotype may have increased between 20,000 and 10,000 y ago and again during the past 1,000 y.
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... eandertals

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm

Angry anti-masker at gas station today. The kind that parks by the door and runs in for cigarettes, engine running. In that time he expressed his disgust with people voluntarily masking.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm

Of course all anti-maskers are mad. I think the reverse is true.
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Post by Tero » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:22 pm

It's like Christians. By existing, we atheists take away from them.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:51 pm

Newsmax reporter challenges "because they say so." If they printed out the data for her, would she be able to read it? "They" would read it out and she would still challenge it.

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