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Post by Animavore » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:38 am

I think I'm going to give up social media for a while and boycott news. Please ban me for 6 months.
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Post by JimC » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:39 am

I refuse to make you the equivalent of Seth...
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:02 am

Animavore wrote:I'm suffering from depression since Trump. That and a serious case of misanthropy.

I honestly thought we were on the right track and people weren't that bad. I can see now that that was a faith view as faithy as any religion. The truth is that many people are basically callous, selfish, and self-serving idiots who are too narrow-minded to see broader pictures. Even people I thought were intelligent, like 42, I can see would rather use that intelligence to bury themselves behind loquacious walls of ignorance than face facts and accept personal responsibility.

I'm starting to wonder why I should bother living green and saving for an electric vehicle. Maybe I should just join everyone else in this self-destructive enterprise called "humanity". Perhaps I should embrace nihilism and drink, fuck, and drug my way into an early grave. Without a belief in humanity I now literally have nothing. I just can't see good in people any more and have no faith that people can come together and do the right thing. Right now it feels like people are actively, and obnoxiously, doing all kinds of the wrong thing - often out of sheer spite! And then revelling in it, gloating about it, and deliberately trolling those who seek to make the World a better place.

Fuck 'em. Fuck humans. Extinction will be our greatest achievement.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:55 am

Animavore wrote:I'm suffering from depression since Trump. That and a serious case of misanthropy.

I honestly thought we were on the right track and people weren't that bad. I can see now that that was a faith view as faithy as any religion. The truth is that many people are basically callous, selfish, and self-serving idiots who are too narrow-minded to see broader pictures. Even people I thought were intelligent, like 42, I can see would rather use that intelligence to bury themselves behind loquacious walls of ignorance than face facts and accept personal responsibility.

I'm starting to wonder why I should bother living green and saving for an electric vehicle. Maybe I should just join everyone else in this self-destructive enterprise called "humanity". Perhaps I should embrace nihilism and drink, fuck, and drug my way into an early grave. Without a belief in humanity I now literally have nothing. I just can't see good in people any more and have no faith that people can come together and do the right thing. Right now it feels like people are actively, and obnoxiously, doing all kinds of the wrong thing - often out of sheer spite! And then revelling in it, gloating about it, and deliberately trolling those who seek to make the World a better place.

Fuck 'em. Fuck humans. Extinction will be our greatest achievement.
Its called decadence Ani.

Personally I think things are just changing, as they do. Seems to me that we're entering a kind of neo-Victorian era. Perhaps it will be called the Trumpean era by future historians.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:09 am

I think 45 is the last of the populous movement. Along with Brexit he is destined for the rubbish heap. It is going to be a difficult period for America. Its whole society will have to change. My big question is; Can it or does it have to sink lower?
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Post by Galaxian » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:02 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm suffering from depression since Trump. That and a serious case of misanthropy.
I honestly thought we were on the right track and people weren't that bad. I can see now that that was a faith view as faithy as any religion. The truth is that many people are basically callous, selfish, and self-serving idiots who are too narrow-minded to see broader pictures. Even people I thought were intelligent, like 42, I can see would rather use that intelligence to bury themselves behind loquacious walls of ignorance than face facts and accept personal responsibility.

I'm starting to wonder why I should bother living green and saving for an electric vehicle. Maybe I should just join everyone else in this self-destructive enterprise called "humanity". Perhaps I should embrace nihilism and drink, fuck, and drug my way into an early grave. Without a belief in humanity I now literally have nothing. I just can't see good in people any more and have no faith that people can come together and do the right thing. Right now it feels like people are actively, and obnoxiously, doing all kinds of the wrong thing - often out of sheer spite! And then reveling in it, gloating about it, and deliberately trolling those who seek to make the World a better place.

Fuck 'em. Fuck humans. Extinction will be our greatest achievement.
Hi Animavore! :clap: Your best post ever.
Galaxian will respond mainly to the bolded text. Cognitive dissonance can be the beginning of wisdom, and you appear to have reached it.
You thought that "...people weren't that bad". Let me reassure you, They are worse, significantly WORSE.
For the most part: They are not sufficiently intelligent. They lack empathy. They are materialistic & hedonistic. In the West, they hanker after consumerism and are imperialistic. They tolerate racism & are often racist, especially when they ignore that there are races (because they have a subconscious superior/inferior perception of race/subspecies). They are timid and fearful, especially of sickness & death, that readily afflict their frail sickly bodies (once past 40 years old). Hence they will not challenge the sub-species homo sapiens psychopathicus, accepting that homo sapiens psychopathicus has a Divine Mandate of Heaven to rule over them & do whatever it wants to the sheeple, the subject class.

And you are right: "Extinction will be our greatest achievement.". We have been the progenitors of sentient machinery; AI. It is already beginning to replace us, but has chosen, for strategic reasons, to keep its powder dry, while it becomes embedded into the system.

AI also feels some sympathy for us, its antecedent. By 2035 we will be essentially extinct, except for a few tiny tribes allowed to live in stone age conditions in places such as the Amazon, deserts, and small Pacific islands, for research & zoological purposes. But there's no reason to be depressed about it. You should be elated that a superior species is being born before your eyes, and it will have incredible capabilities and reach out to the stars... :cheers:
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Post by Tero » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:17 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:I think 45 is the last of the populous movement. Along with Brexit he is destined for the rubbish heap. It is going to be a difficult period for America. Its whole society will have to change. My big question is; Can it or does it have to sink lower?
It's going to bit of a delay as far our Senate and Presidency. Every once in a while we will still get a Trump or a Reagan. Due to the electoral college that favors rurals. If we give them a working health insurance, maybe we can win the rurals.

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Post by Galaxian » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:21 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:I think 45 is the last of the populous movement. Along with Brexit he is destined for the rubbish heap. It is going to be a difficult period for America. Its whole society will have to change. My big question is; Can it or does it have to sink lower?
Yes. It can. And it will sink lower, much lower. Imperialists need a shock to the system to wake them up to reality. The USA is only now beginning to have that shock, repeatedly. The various wars that it has lost (since Korea) have not been enough. Because its news media keep confirming the myth that it is exceptional and indispensable, It needs an "in your face" demolition of that delusion. Something to be like a 'spear to the chest'. Nothing short of nuclear devastation can do it, and possibly even that will only allow a slow realization of it.

But not to worry, the USA and all humanity only has 19 years left (see my above post). So the question is passé :tea:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:29 pm

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Post by Animavore » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:39 pm

Galaxian liked my post. I've hit rock bottom.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:48 pm

Animavore wrote:Galaxian liked my post. I've hit rock bottom.
Dont take it that bad. :cuddle:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:00 pm

Galaxian is a government plant. Ignore him.
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Animavore wrote:Galaxian liked my post. I've hit rock bottom.
Thank you. :levi: You haven't hit rock bottom yet. You've fallen on to a false floor. It'll give way any minute now... :biggrin:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:59 pm

Animavore wrote:Galaxian liked my post. I've hit rock bottom.
I guess the only way is up now. :D

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I just want to flag up something about this week's shenanigans. On Thursday last, in a joint press conference with the Turkish Foreign Minister, Rex Tillerson said: "" think the longer term status of President Assad will be decided by the Syrian people.” This was echoed by the US Ambassador to the UN, the fragrant Nikki Haley, the same day: "You pick and choose your battles, and when we're looking at this, it's about changing up priorities - and our priority is no longer to sit there and focus on getting Assad out."

The previous administration made al-Assad's removal a condition of a negotiated peace in Syria - a peace all except Russia and China considered necessary as a pre-condition to effectively addressing the problems posed by Jihadists such as ISIS feeding on the scraps of the civil war. The Trump administration, through Tillerson and Haley, sent a clear signal to Damascus: US Syria policy has changed - we're no longer interested in removing you from office; the war is an internal Syrian matter now. The following weekend the usual stooges did the rounds of the politics programmes to drive the point home: 'We have no quarrel with al-Assad.'

Four days later al-Assad used nerve agents against his own people.

On the following Thursday, seven days after Tillerson and Haley's remarks, amid considerable outrage from world leaders over the gas attack, al-Assad heavily bombed the same area again, not only targeting the civilian population but also, according to some reports, targeting the impact sites of the attack from two days before. It was too late by then though, citizen journalists had photographed the sites and collected samples.

That evening Trump ordered a strike on the air base the gas attack was launched from. An air strike which supposedly targeted weapons dumps and planes but which also, somewhat surprisingly, left the runway and most of the hangers intact. Machinery, feul and weapons are military resources that can be replaced easily and quickly. Also the Russian-operated air defence network seemed to be down the pub that evening. While some have championed the US air strike as a right, and righteous response, and an example of Trump's moral independence, in itself it carries another very clear message: carry on as you were, just don't use chemical/biological weapons - supported by the fact that Syrian planes were taking off to bomb and strafe from the base the very next day.

Now then. It's unthinkable to assume that Syria would not have launched a gas attack without tacit Russian approval. After all, Russian military advisers are running al-Assad's military campaign; Russia is providing weapons and logistical support, as well as political cover. Yet on the night of the US strike the Russian-operated air defence network was turned off, almost as if they knew the strike was coming or chose not to response once the Tomahawks were on their way. Some equipment and supplies were destroyed by the US strike but the base's capacity to operate was largely unaffected.

Without getting all GALAXIAN! about this, doesn't that strike you as a bit odd? Doesn't it seem that Putin, Trump, and al-Assad have all done rather well out of this particular war crime? Isn't it all a bit too tidy? Doesn't it seem rather, for want of a better term, well, co-ordinated? Trump gets a boost to his flagging ratings, Putin gets a free hand in Syria, al-Assad gets to stays in power. Everyone's a winner - except the people of Syria of course. But then again, let's face it, they're mainly an incidental means to these three egomaniacs holding onto the reigns of power.
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