Boston Marathon hit by explosions

[Coito ergo sum]

Yes, welfare fraud is reprehensible, but in monetary comparison it pales into insignificance compared to business fraud. Welfare fraud costs millions of dollars. Business fraud goes into the trillions.

So, start a thread about an incident of business fraud, then.

I'm certainly not defending business fraud.

[pErvinalia]

Not a "gateway" to terrorism, but in this country there is too much dole fraud. People lie through their teeth and get free stuff.

Probably because you have terrible social welfare there for the less well off.

Clearly not, but not knowing what you're talking about has never stopped you before.

Are you seriously going to try and tell us that the US has social security levels near the likes of Europe and Australia? Seriously?

For the less well off? Absolutely.

You live under a rock (particularly before Obamacare was implemented).

As for the rest of your post, apparently you still haven't read the article. They weren't welfare cheats.

[pErvinalia]

Quite so. It was essentially fraud which brought the economies of the world to its knees four years ago. The poor are paying for that, not the bankers and dealers in money.

...because of corporate welfare. That's what bailouts are.

Corporate welfare is more than just bailouts.

[Coito ergo sum]

Quite so. It was essentially fraud which brought the economies of the world to its knees four years ago. The poor are paying for that, not the bankers and dealers in money.

...because of corporate welfare. That's what bailouts are.

Corporate welfare is more than just bailouts.

Not all corporate welfare are bailouts, but all bailouts are corporate welfare.

[pErvinalia]

Have you read the article yet? Anything to say about your fuck up?

[Coito ergo sum]

Have you read the article yet? Anything to say about your fuck up?

i didn't fuck up. He received benefits even into 2012, says the Boston Herald article. But, now you don't want to talk about corporate welfare? Because why? You support some of it, right?

The bomber got welfare, as did his parents, until fairly recently.

Their taxpayer-funded status came to light last night after repeated calls and emails to welfare officials from the Herald. They refused to comment throughout the day, but pressure mounted last night when the Herald started asking lawmakers whether the Department of Transitional Assistance should release the information.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/lo ... e_benefits

Able-bodied man in his mid-20s with a working wife, collecting welfare. Seems legit.

[sandinista]

Haven't followed this thread...is coits going on about poor people on welfare for some reason? I do see that it has already been pointed out to him that corporate welfare is a far far bigger scam than any number of poor people on welfare. The things people are concerned about..

[Svartalf]

It seems the bombers were dole monkeys

[JimC]

CES wrote:

I'm going off on people who are making middle class and higher incomes who cheat in order to get benefits. There are a lot of them. Most people who get benefits aren't doing that, but the ones that do are scum.

That's where we need evidence, and that's where I think a media beat-up can turn a mountain into a molehill.

The people doing it are plain in the wrong, and need penalties, for sure. But I doubt it is occurring at a level causing major economic problems.

More of a problem is the generations of people, in most western countries, who have become apathetic consumers of social security benefits. Any cheating they do is at a very low level. The concern is not that they are horrible, lazy people, but that they are usually very depressed and have real medical problems. The solution is to make employment and job training an absolute priority...

[pErvinalia]

Have you read the article yet? Anything to say about your fuck up?

i didn't fuck up. He received benefits even into 2012, says the Boston Herald article. But, now you don't want to talk about corporate welfare? Because why? You support some of it, right?

The bomber got welfare, as did his parents, until fairly recently.

Their taxpayer-funded status came to light last night after repeated calls and emails to welfare officials from the Herald. They refused to comment throughout the day, but pressure mounted last night when the Herald started asking lawmakers whether the Department of Transitional Assistance should release the information.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/lo ... e_benefits

Able-bodied man in his mid-20s with a working wife, collecting welfare. Seems legit.

Don't change the goal posts. You fucked up. Be a man.

[Coito ergo sum]

The former mayor of London took to Press TV, an Iranian state-run network, recently to express his disdain for the Bush White House and his assurance that the Boston Marathon bombings were brought upon the United States because of its injustices abroad.
“Very often, people get incredibly angry about injustices that they see,” Ken Livingstone said Friday, according to a transcript by the Middle East Media Research Institute, a nonprofit. “They would have been reading about the torture at Guantanamo Bay, at Baghram airbase. They would have read stuff about how, I think it is 54 different countries secretly collaborated with America for this rendition — people being snatched off streets taken to be tortured, because the Bush regime believed that they were all potential terrorists.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2RwdwPNqD
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What a douche.

[Coito ergo sum]

Don't change the goal posts. You fucked up. Be a man.

[pErvinalia]

The former mayor of London took to Press TV, an Iranian state-run network, recently to express his disdain for the Bush White House and his assurance that the Boston Marathon bombings were brought upon the United States because of its injustices abroad.
“Very often, people get incredibly angry about injustices that they see,” Ken Livingstone said Friday, according to a transcript by the Middle East Media Research Institute, a nonprofit. “They would have been reading about the torture at Guantanamo Bay, at Baghram airbase. They would have read stuff about how, I think it is 54 different countries secretly collaborated with America for this rendition — people being snatched off streets taken to be tortured, because the Bush regime believed that they were all potential terrorists.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2RwdwPNqD
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

What a douche.

Yeah, it was fucken welfare cheats, man!

[pErvinalia]

Don't change the goal posts. You fucked up. Be a man.

Lol, fail. You fucked up. Everyone can read exactly where you fucked up. Are you going to man up and admit it, or just look even sillier?

[Coito ergo sum]

The former mayor of London took to Press TV, an Iranian state-run network, recently to express his disdain for the Bush White House and his assurance that the Boston Marathon bombings were brought upon the United States because of its injustices abroad.
“Very often, people get incredibly angry about injustices that they see,” Ken Livingstone said Friday, according to a transcript by the Middle East Media Research Institute, a nonprofit. “They would have been reading about the torture at Guantanamo Bay, at Baghram airbase. They would have read stuff about how, I think it is 54 different countries secretly collaborated with America for this rendition — people being snatched off streets taken to be tortured, because the Bush regime believed that they were all potential terrorists.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2RwdwPNqD
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

What a douche.

Yeah, it was fucken welfare cheats, man!

It was, but that was incidental.

On welfare: Nice glasses -- $30 a month for a data package for his cell phone.

On welfare: ...spends his time boxing.

Dzhokar....on welfare.... tweeted from his iPhone.

Yeah -- America -- what a horrible place. Free tuition. Free food. Free or near free housing. Unemployed and spend your time playing in social networking apps and practicing a kickboxing hobby. Let's blow up a bunch of people because we don't have many friends...