Mississippi Conservatives - god help us!

[maiforpeace]

My cousin, Gary Ch@vers, had one tooth the last time I met him. He refused to spend any money on a dentist, and let his teeth fall where they may. Once they were all gone he planned on getting dentures via the Internet.

Oh, dear.

[mistermack]

My cousin, Gary Ch@vers, had one tooth the last time I met him. He refused to spend any money on a dentist, and let his teeth fall where they may. Once they were all gone he planned on getting dentures via the Internet.

Oh, dear.

I have an elderly aunt, and her nearest neighbour has a daughter with awful teeth.
She's nearly forty, and single, and when she opens her mouth she looks just like Nanny McPhee, with one big front tooth, (too big) and hardly any others.

You have to speculate that it's partly or wholly why she's still single, and she's not poor, and the rest of her siblings have good teeth. It has to be terror of the dentist.
She may have had a real bullying dentist as a child. ( they do exist ). Or one that was just rubbish.

But it's obviously had a major effect on her life.
As far as public spending goes, I would put free dental care for children very close to the top on MY list of priorities.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

My cousin, Gary Ch@vers, had one tooth the last time I met him. He refused to spend any money on a dentist, and let his teeth fall where they may. Once they were all gone he planned on getting dentures via the Internet.

Oh, dear.

It was worth the whuppin' after I dropped him on his head when he was a baby.

[Coito ergo sum]

Brits and hillbillies. One people, separated by a common dentition.

[FBM]

Nothing Ayaan wrote indicates that the people in the video were not cherry picked. And, Ayaan clarified that it was a religious, conservative dominated state and she stated that her atheist group had trouble meeting. How does that translate to the toothless, racist dopes in the OP video somehow being representative of Mississippians?

I suppose I should chime in, since I lived the first 20-something years of my life in that state. The people interviewed in the OP video are pretty representative of the opinions, reasoning skills and dental health you'll find among the poor and un(der)educated population of MS. And that's a large chunk of the population. However, there are university towns where those opinions do not prevail, and there are well-educated professionals, mostly in the larger cities, who reject such conservatism. But they have to be quiet about it.

It is not a state for someone who is out-spoken as a liberal - or as an atheist. Conservatives hold a lot of power in the state. For many people, the only reason to have universities is because of football.

A year or so before I left the state I got involved with an atheist group. Once we outgrew meeting at someone's house, getting together became a problem. We simply couldn't meet in public as an atheist group because people could lose their jobs. When I left, we were meeting in an art studio owned by the friend of one group's members.

FBM is not from MS. ...The material you highlighted was from FBM.

I was born and raised in MS and didn't move away until I was in my mid-twenties. Even then, I just moved to TN. Not that much difference wrt the OP.

I wonder if there's a chance that CES will admit he misread this, or does he just obtusely ignore the obvious on purpose.

[Coito ergo sum]

I will admit that I misread that FBN was from Mississippi, and I do most surely apologize for it.

Now, I wonder if maiforpeace will admit that FBN did NOT say that the video in the OP was representative of people from Mississippi.

If one actually reads what he wrote he said it is representative "among the poor and un(der)educated population of MS."

Is that the same thing, mai, as saying it's representative of MS residents? Is that the same thing as saying the people in the video in the OP were not "cherry picked?"

Will you, at least, admit that?

[FBM]

The poor and un(der)educated ARE the majority in MS. That's one of the main points Ayaan and I (the only openly Mississipians in the forum) have been trying to make. But anyway, thanks for coming clean on the misread, CES. It happens to us all sooner or later.

[Coito ergo sum]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

If the people in the OP are to be considered "not cherry picked" then they would have to be a representative sampling of all Mississippians. I highly doubt that is the case. It seems to me that they are more "stereotypical" than "typical." There no substantial groups of middle class Mississippians? No substantial group of wealthy Misssippians? No substantial group of Mississippians who aren't half retarded and toothless? No groups of college students and graduate students who aren't toothless and half-retarded? Etc.

[FBM]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

Not suggestion, assertion. Based on lived-in experience. I wish it wasn't so, but I can't deny it. That's what it is there. Go have a look-around for yourself, if you're not convinced.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

Don't know about majority, but they are very easy to find.

[FBM]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

Don't know about majority, but they are very easy to find.

Step One: Go to Mississippi.
Step Two: Talk to somebody. (don't try this at home, kids)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

Don't know about majority, but they are very easy to find.

Step One: Go to Mississippi.
Step Two: Talk to somebody. (don't try this at home, kids)

Haven't actually counted them, but I could stand still and they'd pass me every few seconds.

[Coito ergo sum]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

Don't know about majority, but they are very easy to find.

Idiots, including toothless ones, are easy to find anywhere -- including Detroit, New York, LA and Liverpool - among others.

If they aren't the majority, then the folks in the OP certainly are "cherry picked" aren't they?

Who were picked: white, male, uneducated, idiots, some of whom seemed mentally challenged.

According to the U.S. Census, 51.4% of the residents of the state of Mississippi are women and 37% are black. No women and no blacks were represented in the sampling in the OP. Isn't that cherry picking?

I mean, let's take a camera crew into Detroit or Harlem and interview toothless idiots we find there. Then we'll call them "representative" of the average voter, and ask them silly questions like "why do you keep voting Democrat, if you're still poor?" (recall, one of the questions asked the poor, white toothless man was why he keeps voting Republican, if he's still poor).

Now, let's look at another statistic: 42.8% of Mississippi voters chose Barack Obama in 2008. What does that tell us, in light of the assertion that the folks in the video were not "cherry picked?" None of those Nobel Laureates were interviewed. Why might that be? Either complete idiots and toothless wonders also vote for Obama and Democrats in nearly equal numbers, or 42.8% of the population of Mississippi is not like those in the OP. Which way are we going to go on this, then?

And, to FBM's last post, I have been to Mississippi, as I already noted, and I found the people there generally kind and I didn't bump into many folks of the kind featured in the video. I don't doubt, as Gawdzilla pointed out, that they aren't hard to find. But, they aren't hard to find in New York City, either.

[Coito ergo sum]

So, is the suggestion that the people in the video in the OP are representative of the general population of Mississippians (you and Ayaan being notable exceptions to the general rule)?

Don't know about majority, but they are very easy to find.

Idiots, including toothless ones, are easy to find anywhere -- including Detroit, New York, LA and Liverpool - among others.

If they aren't the majority, then the folks in the OP certainly are "cherry picked" aren't they?

Who were picked: white, male, uneducated, idiots, some of whom seemed mentally challenged.

According to the U.S. Census, 51.4% of the residents of the state of Mississippi are women and 37% are black. No women and no blacks were represented in the sampling in the OP. Isn't that cherry picking?

I mean, let's take a camera crew into Detroit or Harlem and interview toothless idiots we find there. Then we'll call them "representative" of the average voter, and ask them silly questions like "why do you keep voting Democrat, if you're still poor?" (recall, one of the questions asked the poor, white toothless man was why he keeps voting Republican, if he's still poor).

Now, let's look at another statistic: 42.8% of Mississippi voters chose Barack Obama in 2008. What does that tell us, in light of the assertion that the folks in the video were not "cherry picked?" None of those Nobel Laureates were interviewed. Why might that be? Either complete idiots and toothless wonders also vote for Obama and Democrats in nearly equal numbers, or 42.8% of the population of Mississippi is not like those in the OP. Which way are we going to go on this, then?

And, to FBM's last post, I have been to Mississippi, as I already noted, and I found the people there generally kind and I didn't bump into many folks of the kind featured in the video. I don't doubt, as Gawdzilla pointed out, that they aren't hard to find. But, they aren't hard to find in New York City, either.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So?