Afghanistan. It's fucked

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Re: Afghanistan. It's fucked

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:54 am

I keep wondering who gets the poppy seeds...

At least Biden owned it. Heard an interview where some ditz was trying to blame him for the upcoming treatment of Afghani women and girls. He pointed out that it isn't his fault, as he was in charge of another country.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:11 am

The public and the politicians wanted the troops to 'come home' - and now people are blaming everyone but themselves for the consequences.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:57 am

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There is little point in blaming individual western politicians. The whole fucking catastrophe is a nasty intersection of the poisonous fruits of religion and the turgid forces of power politics.
Of course, but I am addressing our member from Yellowknife and he doesn't do social stuff. He sees everything in terms of what individuals do, even when he talks about groups in general, like antifa or members of Congress belonging to the Democratic Party.
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Re: Afghanistan. It's fucked

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:04 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:40 am
There is little point in blaming individual western politicians. The whole fucking catastrophe is a nasty intersection of the poisonous fruits of religion and the turgid forces of power politics.
Also dont forget the Afghans themselves who are a very opportunistic folk.
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Post by aufbahrung » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:09 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:04 am
JimC wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:40 am
There is little point in blaming individual western politicians. The whole fucking catastrophe is a nasty intersection of the poisonous fruits of religion and the turgid forces of power politics.
Also dont forget the Afghans themselves who are a very opportunistic folk.
They are almost like everyone else would be a similar circumstance. Question is what's the point in showing them the city lights and then running away? This 'chase me' move might be the mistake of mistakes later. ;)
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:13 am

Nevermind crumples nevermind.
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Post by Tero » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:29 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:04 am
JimC wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:40 am
There is little point in blaming individual western politicians. The whole fucking catastrophe is a nasty intersection of the poisonous fruits of religion and the turgid forces of power politics.
Also dont forget the Afghans themselves who are a very opportunistic folk.
The corruption in the gov't did not lead to any loyalty. As soon as the US left, the ones in the police and army fled, dressed as civilians. This country is a shithole.
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Post by aufbahrung » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:42 pm

A little diagnosis from a small island that managed to invade every country on the planet at one time or another and subdue nations far larger and make a profit in the process, like India. (a while ago but did have staying power for long enough to civilize them sort of...)
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It would be awkward as hell if it turned out that the US wasn't really helping the 'little people'. I mean, they do that at home, but what if, over in that country, they acted as oppressors...?
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Cunt wrote:
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It would be awkward as hell if it turned out that the US wasn't really helping the 'little people'. I mean, they do that at home, but what if, over in that country, they acted as oppressors...?
Without the support of the remainder of the anglosphere they'd be run from Texas with harsher ways of helping than the Taliban could ever dream
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Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:41 pm

I can't make sense of that, but my point was just that if the US is so terrible at home, it's not safe to assume they were doing right by the Afghanistani people.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:30 pm

Tero wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:29 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:04 am
JimC wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:40 am
There is little point in blaming individual western politicians. The whole fucking catastrophe is a nasty intersection of the poisonous fruits of religion and the turgid forces of power politics.
Also dont forget the Afghans themselves who are a very opportunistic folk.
The corruption in the gov't did not lead to any loyalty. As soon as the US left, the ones in the police and army fled, dressed as civilians. This country is a shithole.
Exactly. The Afghans just follow the money. Next Chinese money. Corruption is the prime mover.
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Post by aufbahrung » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:56 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-58250062

Thankfully she's a woman so pleadings won't come to anything and escalate. :tup:
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