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Post by NineBerry » Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:50 pm

In Republican lands, they prefer stuff that involves more than just two shots.

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Post by NineBerry » Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:51 pm

Seabass wrote:
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There's A Stark Red-Blue Divide When It Comes To States' Vaccination Rates

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/10044302 ... tion-rates

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:07 pm

People are fleeing Melbourne for New Zealand.
Jacinda Ardern has warned there are “consequences” for people breaking New Zealand’s coronavirus border controls after three Melburnians were caught trying to enter the country during the Australian city’s lockdown.

New Zealand has placed a pause on travel from Victoria given the current outbreak in Melbourne but authorities revealed on Wednesday the family was picked up at Auckland airport last week after flying in from Sydney.

The country’s director general of health, Ashley Bloomfield, described the trio’s actions as “disappointing”...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ew-zealand
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:40 pm

If HCQ gets back in the news, and proves itself, will anyone say 'huh, I guess Trump was right'

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... ad-result/
What does all this mean?

There was a conspiracy between the five authors of the Nature paper and the heads of the NIH, NIAID and Wellcome Trust to cover up the lab origin of COVID.
There was a conspiracy involving Daszac, Fauci and others to push the natural origin theory. (See other emails in the recent drop.)
There was a conspiracy involving Daszac to write the Lancet letter and hide its provenance, to push the natural origin theory and paint any other ideas as conspiracy theory. Collin’s blog post is another piece of this story.
Farrar was intimately involved in both large hydroxychloroquine overdose trials, in which about 500 subjects total died.
Farrar, Fauci and Collins withheld research funds that could have supported quality trials of the use of chloroquine drugs and ivermectin and other repurposed drugs that might have turned around the pandemic.
Are the four individuals named here — Fauci, Daszak, Collins and Farrar — intimately involved in the creation of the pandemic, as well as the prolongation and improper treatments used during the pandemic?
I remember the Lancet briefly publishing some bullshit about it, then retracting it. That was, of course, described as not sketchy. The sudden media storm against an obscure old drug though...that looked sketchy as fuck.

This article also looks sketchy, but with the recent changes around how the media handles the lab leak hypothesis, who knows.

I mean, has anyone provided evidence for zoonotic origins? They DID get a lot of people insisting it MUST be zoonotic, so that must have been marketing wank, rather than something more tangible.
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Cunt wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:40 pm
If HCQ gets back in the news, and proves itself, will anyone say 'huh, I guess Trump was right'

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... ad-result/
What does all this mean?

There was a conspiracy between the five authors of the Nature paper and the heads of the NIH, NIAID and Wellcome Trust to cover up the lab origin of COVID.
There was a conspiracy involving Daszac, Fauci and others to push the natural origin theory. (See other emails in the recent drop.)
There was a conspiracy involving Daszac to write the Lancet letter and hide its provenance, to push the natural origin theory and paint any other ideas as conspiracy theory. Collin’s blog post is another piece of this story.
Farrar was intimately involved in both large hydroxychloroquine overdose trials, in which about 500 subjects total died.
Farrar, Fauci and Collins withheld research funds that could have supported quality trials of the use of chloroquine drugs and ivermectin and other repurposed drugs that might have turned around the pandemic.
Are the four individuals named here — Fauci, Daszak, Collins and Farrar — intimately involved in the creation of the pandemic, as well as the prolongation and improper treatments used during the pandemic?
I remember the Lancet briefly publishing some bullshit about it, then retracting it. That was, of course, described as not sketchy. The sudden media storm against an obscure old drug though...that looked sketchy as fuck.

This article also looks sketchy, but with the recent changes around how the media handles the lab leak hypothesis, who knows.

I mean, has anyone provided evidence for zoonotic origins? They DID get a lot of people insisting it MUST be zoonotic, so that must have been marketing wank, rather than something more tangible.
Why do you keep citing stuff you describe as 'sketchy'? Can't you find any with some semblance of credibility?
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Post by Joe » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:50 pm

Sketchy? I've never seen Media Bias Fact Check rate a source "Very Low" for factual reporting, and recommend "fact-checking on a per-article basis."

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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:52 pm

"that might have turned around the pandemic."

Fauci also withheld funds to see if taking roundup might have turned around the pandemic. And omega-3-fatty acids. And aspirin!

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Post by Cunt » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:06 pm

Didn't he lie about funding gain of function research too?

He isn't very believable. Next he'll try to say that criticism is anti-science lol
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Sketchy?
It's not a problem that some sources are sketchy, the problem is that some are seen as 'not sketchy'.

Like looking at the collections of lies Fauci told, and still treating him like a 'non-sketchy' scientist, rather than a life-long politician.
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Cunt wrote:
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Didn't he lie about funding gain of function research too?

He isn't very believable. Next he'll try to say that criticism is anti-science lol
There is no such study. The WHO team investigated and collected samples all over Wuhan. Including the lab. Their mission is to study zoonosis. The primary vessel of the virus is bats.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:25 pm

There are dozens of hydroxychloroquine studies. They all conclude with: Change in symptom severity over 14 days did not differ between the hydroxychloroquine and placebo groups

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Post by NineBerry » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:21 pm

Fauci blocked money from going into forsythia research!

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Post by Joe » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:27 pm

Cunt wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:10 pm
Joe wrote:
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Sketchy?
It's not a problem that some sources are sketchy, the problem is that some are seen as 'not sketchy'.
Like looking at the collections of lies Fauci told, and still treating him like a 'non-sketchy' scientist, rather than a life-long politician.
I can see a sketchy source promoting that notion, but there is a vast difference between a reputable source and a serial liar.

One you trust, but verify. The other, you avoid like the plague. :coffee:
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Post by Cunt » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:45 pm

Have you seen the 'right-wing' concerns over the Fauci emails?

They are hilariously over-dramatic about it. It's quite theatrical.
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