We need to talk about Donald: the cursing & swearing thread

[Scot Dutchy]

So he is going on vacation. And not to his in-laws in Slovenia but to the golf club in NJ, for the 1000th time.

At the cost of the country. He costs $1 million for every trip to Florida.

[Forty Two]

So he is going on vacation. And not to his in-laws in Slovenia but to the golf club in NJ, for the 1000th time.

At the cost of the country. He costs $1 million for every trip to Florida.

Well, I agree , he shouldn't waste money on travelling like that. I said so regarding Obama's consistent expensive vacations, and the largess of his White House. Stop with the golf. And, you don't need a vacation after 6 months. He should set an example, and stay at work.

[Scot Dutchy]

I could not care a fuck what Obama did that was then and this now. It is no excuse for Trump and his family to waste tax payers money.

[Brian Peacock]

It's been estimated that the taxpayer paid $96m for presidential travel during Obama's 8 years in office - that's $12m a year. It's also been estimated that each of Trump's weekend trips to Florida cost $3m, meaning his 7 trips to his Mar-a-lego resort have cost the taxpayer $21m. Add in his 4 weekends at his New Jersey golf resort and the 8 trips he's made to his golf resort in Virginia and the president's travel expenses so far are probably more than double Obama's average for a year.

[Forty Two]

I could not care a fuck what Obama did that was then and this now. It is no excuse for Trump and his family to waste tax payers money.

Well, as long as what he's spending on travel is comparable, on what basis would you suggest that he ought to spend less? I am agreeing with you, by the way. He should set an example, and not waste money like his predecessors did.

But, we can also note that you wouldn't care at all if it was somebody you agreed with or sympathized with politically. Right? You wouldn't give a fuck if Obama was doing it NOW, right? It's not the waste that concerns you, it's who's wasting.

Trump should set a businesslike example, and he's under far more scrutiny, so he needs to be twice as diligent. He needs to just knuckle down, and he should be saving money wherever he can.

Note, he tried to take $0 in salary, and that was deemed not permissible. So, he's donated his Presidential salary so far 100% to charity.

[Forty Two]

It's been estimated that the taxpayer paid $96m for presidential travel during Obama's 8 years in office - that's $12m a year. It's also been estimated that each of Trump's weekend trips to Florida cost $3m, meaning his 7 trips to his Mar-a-lego resort have cost the taxpayer $21m. Add in his 4 weekends at his New Jersey golf resort and the 8 trips he's made to his golf resort in Virginia and the president's travel expenses so far are probably more than double Obama's average for a year.

I'd love to see those estimates.

The $3 estimate for trips to Mar-a-Lago is not based on the costs added up for his trip to Mar-a-Lago. It's based on GAO estimates of Obama's trip to Palm Beach in 2013, which was deemed not comparable because it included at least one other stop and stayover, in Chicago, which significantly added to the cost of the total trip. That's per the Associated Press. Moreover, Obama's $97 million calculation was limited solely to purely leisure activities, so it did not include trips that included both golf and business, for example. And, some ofTrump's trips to Mar-a-Lago have been for government business, like entertaining foreign leaders. Obama made similar trips to other locations, and those were not included in the $97 million count.

Judicial Watch, who estimated the $97 million for Obama's travel costs, estimate the Mar-a-Lago trips as each costing $1,000,000, and that not all of those trips would county as leisure trips.

[Animavore]

Fuck it. Let him stay on holiday. The less time spent embarrassing himself and the nation the better. Take as long as you want.

[Animavore]

Worrying reading on this inept, idiotic, derelict, and bankrupt administration with regards the Department of Energy.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07 ... MzMDM4NQS2

What a bunch of fucksticks. What an embarrassing time to be a human when beset by such a gratuitous display of stupidity by supposed members of the same species.

[Animavore]

When even friendly regimes in the EU are

Reinvigorating the transport sector is a key part of Iran’s vision to leverage its geographic position to become a vibrant hub of trans-Eurasian trade, which plugs nicely into China’s Belt and Road Initiative and Russia’s continued economic activity in the post-Soviet neighborhood. Iran is also a core partner, along with Russia and India, in the emerging North-South Transport Corridor, which seeks to create a multimodal trade route that would cut the lead time between cities on the west coast of India and St. Petersburg in half, and has also worked out its territorial squabbles with Russia over the Caspian Sea”.

Thus, Russia and Iran have not only developed even closer economic ties but are doing so in the medium and long term service of China’s One Belt–One Road initiative which both Moscow and Tehran have embraced.

...

No matter what concessions Russian liberals would make to the US, nothing would be enough given the current political climate in the west. Many Russians have realized that surrendering one’s traditional interests and one’s dignity in the hope of good relations with the US is not only self-defeating but is furthermore objective folly.

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Russia and her ally China are deeply angered with America’s aggressive posturing towards Pyongyang. China and Russia have issued a joint statement condemning American militarism over the Korean peninsula while also stating their sincere desire to see Pyongyang refrain from moves which have been viewed by Seoul and Washington as provocative. After all, Russia and China both border North Korea and neither want to see a war, let alone a nuclear war on their doorstep.

Crucially though, both Moscow and Beijing have condemned any further attempts to sanctions North Korea’s economy.

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Already, Europe is panicking over the idea that countries like Germany might have to purchase expensive American Liquefied Natural Gas which then has to be painstakingly shipped to Europe rather than the cheap and comparatively local alternative of Russian pipeline gas.

Russia could, therefore, tempt Europe with the carrot of cheap energy and goods while combining it with the stick of demanding Europe drop its own sanctions against Russia, most of which date back to 2014. Russia already has sympathetic ears in southern Europe on this matter and Germany may well be moving in this direction due to America’s blatant disregard for northern European concerns.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/unintended ... ns/230503/

Rest of the World clearly fed up with this thick cunt and his hostile "administration", if you can call such a dumpster fire that.

[Brian Peacock]

It's been estimated that the taxpayer paid $96m for presidential travel during Obama's 8 years in office - that's $12m a year. It's also been estimated that each of Trump's weekend trips to Florida cost $3m, meaning his 7 trips to his Mar-a-lego resort have cost the taxpayer $21m. Add in his 4 weekends at his New Jersey golf resort and the 8 trips he's made to his golf resort in Virginia and the president's travel expenses so far are probably more than double Obama's average for a year.

I'd love to see those estimates.

The $3 estimate for trips to Mar-a-Lago is not based on the costs added up for his trip to Mar-a-Lago. It's based on GAO estimates of Obama's trip to Palm Beach in 2013, which was deemed not comparable because it included at least one other stop and stayover, in Chicago, which significantly added to the cost of the total trip. That's per the Associated Press. Moreover, Obama's $97 million calculation was limited solely to purely leisure activities, so it did not include trips that included both golf and business, for example. And, some ofTrump's trips to Mar-a-Lago have been for government business, like entertaining foreign leaders. Obama made similar trips to other locations, and those were not included in the $97 million count.

Judicial Watch, who estimated the $97 million for Obama's travel costs, estimate the Mar-a-Lago trips as each costing $1,000,000, and that not all of those trips would county as leisure trips.

Why not do your own research and see what you think the cost might be? A task not made any easier by the lack of official figures. The cost for Obama's Chicago-Florida trip was $3.6m btw. Trump has made a number of similar stopovers on his way to play golf.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Worrying reading on this inept, idiotic, derelict, and bankrupt administration with regards the Department of Energy.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07 ... MzMDM4NQS2

What a bunch of fucksticks. What an embarrassing time to be a human when beset by such a gratuitous display of stupidity by supposed members of the same species.

You'll probably get no more takers than I did when I posted a link & quoted the same piece ten pages back. I agree with your take on it (fucksticks2); it's a fairly long read, but well worth the time, in my opinion.

[Animavore]

Worrying reading on this inept, idiotic, derelict, and bankrupt administration with regards the Department of Energy.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07 ... MzMDM4NQS2

What a bunch of fucksticks. What an embarrassing time to be a human when beset by such a gratuitous display of stupidity by supposed members of the same species.

You'll probably get no more takers than I did when I posted a link & quoted the same piece ten pages back. I agree with your take on it (fucksticks2); it's a fairly long read, but well worth the time, in my opinion.

I didn't see it. Well worth the read alright. No defending this shit. Which is probably why you got no response. Can't blame Hillary for this one.

[Tero]

Nice of Trump to add all those millions to the GDP.

[DRSB]

No hope for the Swiss glaciers.

Die Gletscher in der Schweiz sind angesichts des Temperaturanstiegs nach Expertenangaben nicht mehr zu retten. Selbst mit den größten Anstrengungen zur CO2-Verringerung würden nach Einschätzung des Glaziologen Matthias Huss von der ETH Zürich 80 bis 90 Prozent der Eismassen bis 2100 schmelzen.

„Eine Verlangsamung der Erderwärmung kommt für die Schweizer Gletscher zu spät“, sagte Huss dem Schweizer „Tagesanzeiger“. Das Blatt berichtet in einer aufwendigen Darstellung über den Rückgang der Gletscher in der Schweiz in den vergangenen 170 Jahren.

Seit 1850, dem Höhepunkt der sogenannten Kleinen Eiszeit, sei das Eisvolumen von 130 auf 54 Kubikkilometer gesunken. Der Rückgang verlief gerade in den vergangenen Jahren und Jahrzehnten dramatisch. 1973 zählte die Schweiz 2150 Gletscher, heute sind es noch rund 1400.

http://www.focus.de/wissen/klima/folgen ... 33585.html

[Scot Dutchy]

I read that many bodies of those killed climbing are appearing.