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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:32 am

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So the story you are excited about, is that some guy Trump fired, now wrote accusations?
"You"? There are at least two of us who are distinctly underwhelmed. Probably many more, but don't let lack of evidence interfere with your assertion. It might set a precedent.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:41 am

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I love how, instead of being himself authoritarian, he left it to the individual governors to show how authoritarian they were.
Another private meaning for a word, I see. If individual governors don't do as Trump wishes, Trump withdraws federal funding from their states. That is not authoritarian? Well, I guess you could argue that it isn't. You could present a case that it is blackmailing instead.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:34 am

...all through the lens correction of your known affection for Trump.

Getting back to the thread topic, I guess it isn't over yet.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:26 am

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...all through the lens correction of your known affection for Trump.
Hey, he did blackmail the governors of Michigan and Nevada a couple of months ago. A couple of months before that he threatened to withhold millions of dollars from law enforcement agencies in states and cities with so-called sanctuary policies. No lens correction needed for those events. If you don't want to call him an autocrat, he is undeniably a serial blackmailer, which amounts to much the same. Maybe you should take your "love Trump" blinkers off.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:32 am

I don't 'love Trump', I just don't hate him. You haven't told me anything that surprising about him. What's up next - Trump says horrible things? Guys with funny moustaches who got fired by him are pissed?

It would be a lot easier to condemn him, if his opposite numbers weren't even MORE incompetent. At least he has nice hair.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:51 am

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I don't 'love Trump', I just don't hate him.
In that case that makes two of us. Where we part ways is this:
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It would be a lot easier to condemn him, if his opposite numbers weren't even MORE incompetent.
As far as the Democrats' policies go, I regard them as better, although only marginally so.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:03 am

It's not the policies, or I could say whoever is more firmly behind freedom of speech. I guess in the last few years I would add 2a to that, but the funny thing is, that policy used to belong to the left. Now it seems to be on the right.

It's more important than the others. To me, I mean.

Nope, it's Pelosi tearing up a speech. Schiff saying he had seen evidence of Russian Collusion, Schumer threatening judges at a rally...

Then, you get to hear who they shit on/ditch. Yang said police should ALL be much better trained at the physical confrontation part of their job. He also said something about people needing to have enough to get by.

There were a few other reasonable-sounding Dem candidates, but who do we get 'choosed'? Joe play-with-my-leg-hair Biden.

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Cunt wrote:I don't 'love Trump'
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:32 am

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...the funny thing is, that policy used to belong to the left. Now it seems to be on the right.
The dismantling of environmental and health policies and the nepotism, the pandering to religious fundamentalists, the toleration of right wing terroists, the wholesale description of demonstrators and protesters as and the corruption and blackmailing that accompany them belong to the right. Because of these I regard the Dems as "dangerous mobs of far-left groups" marginally preferable.

Using the same symbol the Nazis devised to label political dissidents incarcerated in concentration camps really takes the cake.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Animavore » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:15 am

Trump is losing it and getting desperate.
June 18, 2020 (Thursday)

Today’s political news was chaotic, so you shouldn't worry if you found yourself unable to make sense of what on earth was happening. Still, amidst the chaos, there was a feeling of desperation from the White House as the tide seems to have turned against the president.

The biggest piece of news from today is that the Supreme Court blocked the Trump administration’s policy of ending DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Initiated by President Barack Obama in 2012, this program provides some legal protections and a pathway to obtaining a work permit for undocumented immigrants who were brought into America by their parents when they were children. Chief Justice John Roberts sided with the majority decision, which said the administration had not provided a clear rationale for ending the program. DACA remains very popular in the country: 74% of Americans like it.

The administration’s attack on DACA had suffered losses in the lower courts, but rather than fixing the problems with it, officials decided to go to the Supreme Court, where Trump has appointed two justices—Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh—during his term. The president has repeatedly said of controversial policies that he would take them to the Supreme Court, where he would win.

But this week, the court decided against the administration on two landmark cases. On Monday, it decided that employers could not discriminate against LGBT workers. Today, it ruled against one of Trump’s signature policies.

Trump was incensed, and Twitter heard about it. “These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives. We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020!” He went on: “[W]e need NEW JUSTICES of the Supreme Court. If the Radical Left Democrats assume power, your Second Amendment, Right to Life, Secure Borders, and… Religious Liberty, among many other things, are OVER and GONE!”

He called the DACA decision “highly political… and seemingly not based on the law,” (which, by the way, seems to answer my question on Monday about his easy acceptance of the LGBT decision. When he said “That’s what it’s all about… we live with the decision of the Supreme Court…. Very powerful, very powerful decision actually, but they have so ruled,” he likely just didn’t know what the decision was and tried to fake it, expecting that the Supreme Court would have decided in his favor.)

Trump also attacked his former National Security Advisor John Bolton, whose forthcoming tell-all book from his 17 months in the White House apparently shows Trump begging Chinese leader Xi Jinping for a trade deal to help his reelection campaign just after endorsing the leader’s policy of forcing a million Chinese Uighurs into concentration camps. On Twitter, Trump called Bolton “wacko” and “incompetent, “a disgruntled boring fool who only wanted to go to war. Never had a clue, was ostracized & happily dumped. What a dope!” (Trump, of course, appointed Bolton, who lasted the longest of any of his four NSAs, so far.)

Trump’s supporters rallied to him. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, whom Bolton claimed had mocked Trump, issued a formal statement saying that while he had not read the book, he had seen excerpts. “Bolton is spreading a number of lies, fully-spun half-truths, and outright falsehoods.” He called Bolton a “traitor,” and concluded “To our friends around the world: you know that President Trump’s America is a force for good in the world.”

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who took Russian money from indicted political operative Lev Parnas, claims Bolton’s book is a national security risk. McCarthy charged that Bolton is putting America in danger to make money.

But the president is clearly worried that his grip on the country is slipping, especially as a new poll from Fox News shows him badly behind presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. Today Trump tried to distance himself from the trade deal at the heart of Bolton’s book. He contradicted the testimony of U.S. Trade Representative Robert E. Lighthizer before the House Ways and Means Committee yesterday, saying that, in fact, the U.S. “certainly does maintain a policy option, under various conditions, of a complete decoupling from China.”

More revealing was that in the midst of his torrent of tweeting today were 21 tweets outlining pots of money the Department of Transportation is distributing to various states where Trump’s support is waning for them to spend on transportation infrastructure. U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao, who is married to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, announced today $906 million in discretionary spending for transportation under the Fixing America’s Surface Transportation (FAST) Act, passed under Obama in 2015. One observer noted “Trump found out he’s losing to Biden by 12 points in the latest Fox news poll & started Tweeting like Oprah giving away cars at Christmas.”

But something significant happened today on social media: Twitter and Facebook both flagged the president’s publicity. Trump shared an ad that seems to show a black toddler (misspelled “todler” in the fake CNN chyron in the shot) running from a “racist baby” who is “probably a Trump voter,” then reveals “what actually happened,” a backstory showing the two children hugging in a joyous reunion before running off together, as shown in the original cut, which came from a viral video a few months old. The implication is that the recent emphasis on white racism is manufactured outrage by people with a political agenda. “America is not the problem,” the ad reads. “Fake news is.”

Twitter slapped a “Manipulated media” warning on the tweet.

The Trump campaign also published on Facebook an ad with images of a red triangle that mirrored the patches Nazis used to mark political prisoners in concentration camps. The ads apparently ran 88 times—88 is code for Heil Hitler-- and Facebook later removed the ads for promoting “organized hate.”

Parker Molloy, editor at Media Matters, noted that this sort of dog whistle is designed to attract like-minded racists, but also to make opponents seem “paranoid, easily offended, and see Nazis everywhere they look.” She also suggested that this was a deliberate attempt to avoid having to pay for more ads because media would pick up the story and run with it. “It’s expensive to run ads,” she wrote, “but media coverage is free.” She noted that it’s far cheaper to run something offensive, get banned, and then cry “censorship--” which feeds the right-wing’s existing narrative-- than it is to pay for ads.

So it was a chaotic day, and a confusing one, but the fact that the Trump campaign is openly sharing Nazi symbols suggests that the lines of the election are becoming very clear indeed.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:35 am

"Shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives."


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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:44 am

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:o :shock: Bibel-forscher? :shock: :o

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Post by NineBerry » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:13 am

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:o :shock: Bibel-forscher? :shock: :o
It' was the Nazi-name for Christian sects like Jehova's witnesses. Mormons, Adventists and so on.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by BarnettNewman » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:49 am

Cunt wrote:I love how, instead of being himself authoritarian, he left it to the individual governors to show how authoritarian they were.

Didn't the New York one send covid patients back to their nursing homes, increasing the number of fatalities?
Are you still under the delusion that Cuomo is left wing?


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