All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:30 pm

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There is no-one in US politics who is far left. In Oz, Bernie Sanders would be a centrist Labour Party politician...
Aye. Social Democrats are not "lefties" in the scare-quotes sense.
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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Cunt » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:09 pm

um...because facts don't relate to who exposes them. Their motives sure play in, but what his daughter (and wife lol) do for work is real enough.

It's why James O'Keefe keeps breaking incredible stories, and many people just have to attack HIM, while seemingly denying facts he exposes. To be fair, the guy is a showman, with a flavour many don't like. But he isn't all raves and lucky charms advocacy.
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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:52 pm

It’s the implication that’s problematic.

It’s possible to understand the judge’s decisions as being the result of something other than corruption, bias etc. Instead, we’re encouraged to believe they only make sense if there’s something else going on.

That’s manipulation.
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Post by macdoc » Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:40 pm

That's fucking tin hat shite....wonder how many difference sartorial choices cunt has. :nono:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:38 pm

He's a full on conspiracy nut. Pretty much everything he posts has a conspiratorial element to it.
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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:11 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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He's a full on conspiracy nut. Pretty much everything he posts has a conspiratorial element to it.
That’s MAGA. The crazy thing is just how many conspiracies they believe. It’s like their preferred way of looking at anything that happens. You know how a person might see god in everything, they see a conspiracy.
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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:27 pm

It's a hobby. From my blog.
Conspiracy theories are filling up social media. Alex Jones is happy. He lives for conspiracies.

I was mainly interested in how the use of them is tightly joined to the right at this time. Jewish space lasers? Green had specific ideas with that. Wikipedia even dug up a Jewish business connection. See under Marjorie Taylor Greene.

It did not have the right impact without the "Jewish" part. The purpose is to at first grab attention and spread like wildfire. But there are parts that the person inventing the conspiracy wants to hang on to. She gets her people to share their ideas and make fun of elites. "Owning the libs."

Trump himself seems to grab onto a new one every time he can. If you can attach a country or ethnic group to it, even better. Trump has no use for facts. He needs these things like he needs rallies. Material for his stand up routine. He does not need to explain it well, like Hannibal Lecter. It is just there for a joke. He needs the crowds and social media for the stuff. He is going to be so depressed when he is nothing in a few years and TV has gone past him and his weird hobbies.

To sum up: My take is that there are only two goals: 1 distract and throw doubt on something, get political support of the regular folks in doubting the elites 2 togetherness, sharing.

With Trump there is a big factor that is maybe in all the wacko end of MAGA polticians: secret message to the faithful followers suggesting something rather disgusting about a group (Jews, foreigners, libs) without actually using the word. "They are eating our cats and dogs." It was too good not to use.

Something common among all MAGA voters is the reaction to everything the government (CDC, FDA) tells us: "who are they to tell me what to do?" It is this thought that preceded the details of most popular conspiracy theories. A few were also about individuals (Hillary).

There is a more serious part to conspiracies outside of politics. These people are just there to make a few dollars, so they cast doubt on Covid medications and vaccines and use their web site to peddle a few health supplements. The same junk you can get in a variety of forms at your local health supplement store. Dr Mercola was a pioneer way back from the Nutrasweet days.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:57 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:52 pm
It’s the implication that’s problematic.

It’s possible to understand the judge’s decisions as being the result of something other than corruption, bias etc. Instead, we’re encouraged to believe they only make sense if there’s something else going on.

That’s manipulation.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:04 pm

I heard Obama was a muslim.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:05 pm

Yeah, and you know his middle name is Hussein!!!

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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:04 am

They used Jewish space lasers during the bowling green massacre. Just sayin' :tea:
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Post by Joe » Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:42 am

Don't for get Russia, Russia, Russia and Stop the Steal.

However, I'm pretty sure Q shot JR. :biggrin:
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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Cunt » Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:28 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:52 pm
It’s the implication that’s problematic.

It’s possible to understand the judge’s decisions as being the result of something other than corruption, bias etc. Instead, we’re encouraged to believe they only make sense if there’s something else going on.

That’s manipulation.
It could be something other than corruption, but I doubt it.

How many judges, at his equivalent level, should be permitted to veto the actions of the Executive Branch, such as he has done?

And WHO was he taking action for? The person he was protecting? Do we know anything about the individuals concerned?

And yes, they call everything they don't want to deal with 'conspiracy'. Like the Epstein one. Or Maxwell. Or Smollett. Or Anthony Weiner/Breitbart. Or James O'Keefe.

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Re: All Things Trump: The Return Of The King

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:00 pm

Case: J.G.G. v. Trump
1:25-cv-00766 | U.S. District Court for the District of District of Columbia
Filed Date: March 15, 2025

Case Ongoing
This case challenged the Trump Administration’s authority to invoke the Alien Enemies Act to circumvent removal procedures and order the immediate removal of Venezuelan nationals from the United States. On March 15, 2025, five detained Venezuelan nationals filed this class action lawsuit in the District Court for the District of Columbia against President Donald J. Trump, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security (“DHS”), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (“ICE”), and the Department of State. Represented by the ACLU and Democracy Forward, the plaintiffs challenged the Administration’s invocation of the AEA to remove them from the United States without any opportunity for a hearing or judicial review. The AEA is a wartime measure that authorizes the removal of citizens from countries with whom the United States is at war. On March 15, 2025, President Trump issued a proclamation declaring that the United States was “under invasion” by Tren de Aragua, a Venezuelan gang and designated foreign terrorist organization, and invoking the AEA. The plaintiffs filed their complaint the same day, arguing that the defendants had exceeded their authority under the AEA and violated the Immigration and Nationality Act (“INA”), the Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998 (“FARRA”), the Administrative Procedure Act, the Fifth Amendment right to due process, and Habeas Corpus. The plaintiffs sought a temporary and permanent injunction, declaratory relief, writs of habeas corpus, and attorney’s fees. The case was assigned to Chief Judge James Boasberg.
Where's the conspiracy? The AEA is definitely not routine, and obviously open to challenges especially as it was used here. If we can't agree on that, we probably can't discuss anything.

https://clearinghouse.net/case/46232/
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