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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Forty Two » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:27 pm

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Trump threatens funding cut if UC Berkeley 'does not allow free speech'
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... allow-free

What a cunt. He has no business interfering.
Of course the federal government has business when they are providing funding. That's the point of a good deal of federal funding. For example, the feds have threatened to withdraw federal highway funds, if a state does not maintain particularly drinking age or speed limit laws. The feds condition federal funds on compliance with hosts of federal rules and regulations. What could possibly be wrong for the feds to condition the provision of federal funds to universities on the universities respecting the principles of freedom of speech and the press.

What needs to happen with Berkeley is that the violent rioters, to the extent possible, should be arrested and prosecuted. Any of those rioters who were students should be expelled.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: The suzerain Trump

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Donald Trump: 'I will totally destroy the Johnson amendment' and allow religious groups to endorse political candidates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 59421.html

Wow!
mmmh.... that could work both way and destroy their tax exempt status, since they are using funds for other than charitable ends...
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Forty Two » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:30 pm

Animavore wrote:Meanwhile in Texas.
Cypress Ranch High School students in hot water after Hitler pose in senior pictures.
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More evidence of Nazi empowerment since they have their guys in charge.
Indeed, they should have done something reasonable, like set a fire, throw fireworks, punch people in the face and throw rocks at people. That's what the people who don't have their guys in charge do.
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Post by Tero » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:57 pm

IWW:
On Friday night, someone was shot at a protest in Seattle against prominent alt-right bigot Milo Yiannopoulos. His comrades are now fundraising for his hospital bills, loss of income while unable to work, and any potential legal costs that might arise from the situation. In their words:

“On the evening of Friday, January 20th, a comrade of ours was shot in the stomach in the most public place on the University of Washington’s campus in Seattle – a place called “Red Square” for the color of its bricks rather than its politics.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Animavore » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:05 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Donald Trump: 'I will totally destroy the Johnson amendment' and allow religious groups to endorse political candidates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 59421.html

Wow!
mmmh.... that could work both way and destroy their tax exempt status, since they are using funds for other than charitable ends...
He wants to destroy the law that takes the tax exempt status off them.

Hey, guys. Guys. 'Member when some Trump supporters were all, "He doesn't mention God. He's not a Christian nut. He's not going to be aiding the Christian right. He's more liberal than Hillary" Heh. Heh. D'ya 'member that?

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Re: The suzerain Trump

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Animavore wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Donald Trump: 'I will totally destroy the Johnson amendment' and allow religious groups to endorse political candidates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 59421.html

Wow!
mmmh.... that could work both way and destroy their tax exempt status, since they are using funds for other than charitable ends...
He wants to destroy the law that takes the tax exempt status off them.

Hey, guys. Guys. 'Member when some Trump supporters were all, "He doesn't mention God. He's not a Christian nut. He's not going to be aiding the Christian right. He's more liberal than Hillary" Heh. Heh. D'ya 'member that?

:hilarious:
Well, he was elected by the Repugnicans, who contain a huge big lot of chretinous nuts, starting with the veep, so of course he's sending the ball their side.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:11 pm

This is the end goal, if they can reach it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

America needs to make sure the Dems get in for 2018.
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:25 pm

I think America needs to fully experience the kind of utopia Trump and his puppeteers imagine and seek to bring about - only then will they come to understand how bogus it is and why it cannot work.

I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see hardliner/moderate splits in the Trump administration within the year. Keep an eye on the price of ice pick stock.
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It's a good thing that terrible, terrible hawk Clinton didn't get elected.

"U.S. military probing more possible civilian deaths in Yemen raid"
U.S. Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens was killed in the raid on a branch of al Qaeda, also known as AQAP, in al Bayda province, which the Pentagon said also killed 14 militants. However, medics at the scene said about 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed.

U.S. Central Command said in a statement that an investigating team had "concluded regrettably that civilian non-combatants were likely killed" during Sunday's raid. It said children may have been among the casualties.

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U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Forty Two » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:22 pm

This bit in the article sounds odd -- "U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

The Pentagon directed queries about the officials' characterization of the raid to U.S. Central Command, which pointed only to its statement on Wednesday.

"CENTCOM asks for operations we believe have a good chance for success and when we ask for authorization we certainly believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning," CENTCOM spokesman Colonel John Thomas said."

Who were the "military officials" who said that? So, here we have Trump, inaugurated on 1/20, and between that date and 1/29, he approved this mission. However, later in the article (which you edited out) it shows Centcom asking for operations that they believe have a good chance of success, and when THEY ask for authorization, they believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning.

The article attempts to blame Trump for this - as if he went off half-cocked and directed a mission that just didn't have adequate intelligence, ground support or backup preparations. However, it was, as the article notes, Centcom that planned the mission and asked the President for authorization. They don't go to the President and say "hey we have this mission here ,and we'd like to go forward," and the President goes "sure, go ahead - no planning or intelligence needed, just do it."

I mean - is that how Obama authorized missions? He conducted detailed reviews of the intelligence, planning and backup of each mission, to ensure that sufficient intelligence, planning and backup existed? Or, did he oversea general policy and goals, and the Centcom planned the missions and represented to him that the intelligence was there and the planning was there, etc., which the President o.k'd?

Then folks take this and run with it -- like this article -
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/02/ ... -raid.html - which declares that "Trump bungled his first operation" becuase he ordered a raid without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations. Sarah Jones puts Ayesha Rascoe's article in quotes, quoting her, who in her article is paraphrasing unnamed "US military officials." LOL. Note, also, that Ayesha Rascoe, the author of the Reuters article, does not say SHE was told by the officials....she reports that the military officials "told Reuters." Oh, yeah? Who?

Weird.
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Tero wrote:Trump accuses Australia's prime minister of trying to send US the 'next Boston bombers' in 'worst deal ever'
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Trump to deport bad hombres on welfare:
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by cronus » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:03 pm

Forty Two wrote:This bit in the article sounds odd -- "U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

The Pentagon directed queries about the officials' characterization of the raid to U.S. Central Command, which pointed only to its statement on Wednesday.

"CENTCOM asks for operations we believe have a good chance for success and when we ask for authorization we certainly believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning," CENTCOM spokesman Colonel John Thomas said."

Who were the "military officials" who said that? So, here we have Trump, inaugurated on 1/20, and between that date and 1/29, he approved this mission. However, later in the article (which you edited out) it shows Centcom asking for operations that they believe have a good chance of success, and when THEY ask for authorization, they believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning.

The article attempts to blame Trump for this - as if he went off half-cocked and directed a mission that just didn't have adequate intelligence, ground support or backup preparations. However, it was, as the article notes, Centcom that planned the mission and asked the President for authorization. They don't go to the President and say "hey we have this mission here ,and we'd like to go forward," and the President goes "sure, go ahead - no planning or intelligence needed, just do it."

I mean - is that how Obama authorized missions? He conducted detailed reviews of the intelligence, planning and backup of each mission, to ensure that sufficient intelligence, planning and backup existed? Or, did he oversea general policy and goals, and the Centcom planned the missions and represented to him that the intelligence was there and the planning was there, etc., which the President o.k'd?

Then folks take this and run with it -- like this article -
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/02/ ... -raid.html - which declares that "Trump bungled his first operation" becuase he ordered a raid without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations. Sarah Jones puts Ayesha Rascoe's article in quotes, quoting her, who in her article is paraphrasing unnamed "US military officials." LOL. Note, also, that Ayesha Rascoe, the author of the Reuters article, does not say SHE was told by the officials....she reports that the military officials "told Reuters." Oh, yeah? Who?

Weird.
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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Forty Two » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:32 pm

Tero wrote:IWW:
On Friday night, someone was shot at a protest in Seattle against prominent alt-right bigot Milo Yiannopoulos. His comrades are now fundraising for his hospital bills, loss of income while unable to work, and any potential legal costs that might arise from the situation. In their words:

“On the evening of Friday, January 20th, a comrade of ours was shot in the stomach in the most public place on the University of Washington’s campus in Seattle – a place called “Red Square” for the color of its bricks rather than its politics.
Yes, the leftist protesters outside Kane Hall hurled bricks and other items at police officers, according to the Seattle Police Department. They also threw fireworks and paint. I tried to watch the video of the shooting, but it's impossible to see what exactly was going on. So, we ought to conclude "rioters didn't do nuffin'."

But, even if we place full responsibility on the yellow hatted guy with the gun, it's still one person. Nobody denies there are criminals on both sides of the equation. The big difference is that the leftists actually riot en masse, burn, assault, batter, and harass people to their faces. The Trump supporters are generally just marching and cheering.

It's another thing - whenever a leftist pisses and moans about being "harassed" they include things like "what country are you from?" and "you sure do speak English well!" as unacceptable aggressions. Yet, you don't see leftists suggesting that actual aggressions committed by leftists ought be treated as harassment and hate speech.

Anyway, even in the incident where you referred to a shooting ,there was far more violence from the left than the right. One guy on the Trump side. Masses of hundreds, if not thousands, committing violence in the name of shutting someone up.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:59 pm

Forty Two wrote:This bit in the article sounds odd -- "U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

The Pentagon directed queries about the officials' characterization of the raid to U.S. Central Command, which pointed only to its statement on Wednesday.

"CENTCOM asks for operations we believe have a good chance for success and when we ask for authorization we certainly believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning," CENTCOM spokesman Colonel John Thomas said."

Who were the "military officials" who said that? So, here we have Trump, inaugurated on 1/20, and between that date and 1/29, he approved this mission. However, later in the article (which you edited out) it shows Centcom asking for operations that they believe have a good chance of success, and when THEY ask for authorization, they believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning.

The article attempts to blame Trump for this - as if he went off half-cocked and directed a mission that just didn't have adequate intelligence, ground support or backup preparations. However, it was, as the article notes, Centcom that planned the mission and asked the President for authorization. They don't go to the President and say "hey we have this mission here ,and we'd like to go forward," and the President goes "sure, go ahead - no planning or intelligence needed, just do it."

I mean - is that how Obama authorized missions? He conducted detailed reviews of the intelligence, planning and backup of each mission, to ensure that sufficient intelligence, planning and backup existed? Or, did he oversea general policy and goals, and the Centcom planned the missions and represented to him that the intelligence was there and the planning was there, etc., which the President o.k'd?

Then folks take this and run with it -- like this article -
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/02/ ... -raid.html - which declares that "Trump bungled his first operation" becuase he ordered a raid without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations. Sarah Jones puts Ayesha Rascoe's article in quotes, quoting her, who in her article is paraphrasing unnamed "US military officials." LOL. Note, also, that Ayesha Rascoe, the author of the Reuters article, does not say SHE was told by the officials....she reports that the military officials "told Reuters." Oh, yeah? Who?

Weird.
Yeah, but the Navy SEALs still ripped Al Q a new one he?

Anyway, do you think journalists should be legally compelled to reveal their sources?
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