Russia invades Ukraine again?

[Tero]

Russia runs news bit on special "tank" and Ukraine figures out where it is and...was

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1528328452549517313

[Tero]

The cease fire (there will be no treaty) can only happen this way. It will take at least a year. Spending a winter outdoors will break the Russian army.

But even so, off-ramp remains the wrong metaphor and the wrong goal. The West should not aim to offer Putin an off-ramp; our goal, our endgame, should be defeat. In fact, the only solution that offers some hope of long-term stability in Europe is rapid defeat, or even, to borrow Macron’s phrase, humiliation. In truth, the Russian president not only has to stop fighting the war; he has to conclude that the war was a terrible mistake, one that can never be repeated. More to the point, the people around him—leaders of the army, the security services, the business community—have to conclude exactly the same thing. The Russian public must eventually come to agree too.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ia/629940/

[Tero]

Russia has tank issues
https://mobile.twitter.com/John_A_Ridge ... YlFud5v8HA

[aufbahrung]

Offramp is appeasement and appeasement didn't work the last time this sort of thing happened

[Tero]

Fuck you Kissinger
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/henry- ... ory-russia

Giving Russia hunks of land is not going to end this.

[Tero]

7 regular generals fired. One has been "disappeared:"

Their firing comes weeks after two generals were fired for performing poorly in Ukraine.

According to UK intelligence, Lieutenant General Serhiy Kisel, who commanded the elite 1st Guards Tank Army, was suspended for failing to capture Kharkiv. Meanwhile, Vice Admiral Igor Osipov, who commanded Russia's Black Sea Fleet, was fired after the Moskva battleship was sunk in April.

Meanwhile, Russia's top commander for the Ukraine war, Gen. Alexander Dvornikov, has not been seen for weeks, leading some US officials to speculate that he might have been removed from his post.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-a ... BrA-ypwyUo

[Tero]

[JimC]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/ ... /101160110

Russia's foreign ministry has sanctioned an additional 121 Australian citizens, including journalists and defence officials, citing what it calls a "Russophobic agenda" in the country.

Australian mining magnate Gina Rinehart, Seven West Media chairman Kerry Stokes, Andrew Forrest and South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas have been added to the list.

Journalists from ABC News, the Sydney Morning Herald, Nine and Sky News, as well as various defence officials, are among the sanctioned individuals.

I'm offended! My name should be on the fucking list, I think you're an arsehole, Putin!

[Svartalf]

I wonder if Putin will find this backfires, by encouraging NATO to add states in the east of Europe.

I was right.

But Turkey is threatening a veto on their membership, because of their welcome to Kurdish refugees it claims are terrorists, and a ban on military exports to Turkey...

Honestly, we should cast turkey out of everything, until a proper Kemalist state has been restored, erdogan is no better than the next taliban.

[Svartalf]

I wonder if Putin is putting some pressure on Erdogan...

quite possible, that and the fact he likes his bread buttered on both sides.

[Svartalf]

Turkey's just looking for some gravy.

I'll give erdogan polonium laced tea, maybe the next head of state will be more readsonable

[rainbow]

I wonder if Putin is putting some pressure on Erdogan...

quite possible, that and the fact he likes his bread buttered on both sides.

Do you mean bread or bum?

[Svartalf]

both of course.

[Tero]

Another ship...smallish....sunk
https://mobile.twitter.com/DefenceU/sta ... 5553649665

[Tero]

Russia is so sparsely populated they will not have the manpower to cover such a large territory.