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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:02 pm

Animavore wrote:Trumps authoritarian dystopia.

]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -passwords
'Extreme vetting' would require visitors to US to share contacts and passwords ...
They have 'extreme vetting' in Wales, though it means something completely different there and usually involves a cliff edge, a pair of braces, and a rectal thermometer.

I expect that US citizens will soon have to pledge allegiance to the President And Our Glorious First Family before baseball matches.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:09 pm

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Animavore wrote:Trumps authoritarian dystopia.

]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -passwords
'Extreme vetting' would require visitors to US to share contacts and passwords ...
They have 'extreme vetting' in Wales, though it means something completely different there and usually involves a cliff edge, a pair of braces, and a rectal thermometer.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:16 pm

pErvin wrote:Pot heads from the UK...
Not that many these days. Few coffee shops still open.
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Post by DRSB » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:10 pm

pErvin wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:What's to see anyway?
It looks like a stunning country in terms of natural scenery. I'd love to visit there, if it wasn't for some of the people that inhabit the place.
I know many people that have lived there and fled. Very annoying to be constantly confronted with the question "What church do you go to?"

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Post by Tero » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:31 pm

The Atheists go to the Unitarian church. It's theonly one that allows abortion. Probably has a apecial hymn for it.

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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:35 pm

Authoritarian government is authoritarian.
or nearly 25 years, the federal government has been investigating police departments for patterns of unconstitutional policing, and compelling them to reform through court-enforced agreements.

Now, in one of his first acts as attorney general, Jeff Sessions seems poised to abandon the only tool that the federal government has to force structural change in troubled departments.

“It is not the responsibility of the federal government to manage non-federal law enforcement agencies,” he wrote in the April 3 memo calling for a comprehensive review of the department’s police reform programs. The review will include current and pending reform agreements, known as consent decrees.

Sessions said he wanted to ensure the agreements don’t conflict with the Trump administration’s priorities, which include protecting the public, promoting officer safety, morale and public respect for their work; and respecting civil rights. He added that the “misdeeds of individual bad actors” shouldn’t be used to undermine officers or agencies, and that local departments were best placed to implement best policing practices.

The memo quickly raised alarm among former officials who have worked on reform efforts.

“It is troubling that the attorney general is taking the position that the role of the DOJ is not to ensure that local law enforcement complies with the Constitution,” said Jonathan Smith, a former section chief in the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by JimC » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:26 pm

Nick is heading over there soon, for a week, to see his US girlfriend. I'll be interested in his impressions when he comes back, since he was there in the pre-Trump era last year...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:41 pm

On the policing matter. Policing policy should be a federal government issue. The US citizen needs to know that regardless of where they live or where they travel to policing will be consistent in administration and practice. I can see the point of devolving this to the state level - it cuts a certain amount of cost and disentangles an administration from the responsibility of maintaining an active watch on policing policy. However, consistency in the administration of the judicial system, from policing to the courts, is one of those golden rules which stops regions, or areas within regions, becoming authoritarian fiefdoms. The US is not served well by clinging to this Wild West mentality.

Oh, and I see Bannon has stepped down || been booted off National Security Council, apparently at the instigation of its chair, HR McMaster. I found out something interesting about Bannon today...
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:09 pm

Bannon has lots of - interesting views.

Worry about him.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:51 am

Rick Perry is on the NSC now. :o
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Post by DRSB » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:51 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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"An autopsy revealed a near total obstruction of the arteries leading to the brain, some of which were narrowed to tiny slits. But Lenin did not have some of the traditional risk factors for strokes."

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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:30 am

We're all mutants I'm afraid. The scarey thing is that Bannon thinks his death-seeker mutation is normal.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:39 am

it's anosognosia, a very common feature of mental diseases, refusing to acknowledge that you are ill.
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Re: We Need To Talk About Donald

Post by Animavore » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:37 am

Can't link on this device, but it turns out Trump's wall will involve a massive land grab, much of it his own supporters. One supporter found out the wall would leave her on the side of Mexico. :lol:

I guarantee that wall ain't happening. Another failed promise.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:02 pm

How many meters of wall have been built so far? I haven't been keeping up with that issue, but I know work was starting on DAY ONE!!!

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