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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:13 pm

Forty Two wrote:
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But seriously. Whatever reproachful thing Trump is accused of doing or being means absolutely nothing - there are lots and lots of reproachful people around doing reproachful things all the time, some of them much worse than Trump. Expecting people to be better than they are is just naive, and pointless, especially when it comes to politicians.
What other politicians have done reproachful things, such that you think they should do better?
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:20 pm

Anyone current? Or, just Trump?

On second thought, who hasn't done reproachful things?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:28 pm

Forty Two wrote:Anyone current? Or, just Trump?
As I said: Lots and lots.
Forty Two wrote:On second thought, who hasn't done reproachful things?
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:31 pm

Tero wrote:Never trust a billionaire/millionaire. Even if it looks like they give you money, they want something back. Not now, but eventually.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:41 pm

”Optics” is everything:
"The optics in some of this don't look good, and that's why we, again, have taken this criticism to heart," Tom Price told Fox News last fall, as his frequent use of charter jets was about to prematurely end his tenure as Health and Human Services secretary.

Trump, hinting to reporters that Price was on his way out, said, "Look, I think he's a very fine person. I certainly don't like the optics."

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by JimC » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:59 pm

Forty Two wrote:

The media will give Trump a huge gift if they focus on Trump's vulgarity, womanizing, and narcissism. Everyone expects that from a billionaire mogul. They expect worse, and they figure all the rich and powerful are doing it. Everybody is fucking around.
In the past, Presidents of the US had gravitas and dignity. They were presidential, because that was the role.

Now, the behaviour of your leaders, and the divisions within your society are something like a historian would expect from an Empire towards the end of its time...

We better get used to eating lots of rice, I suspect...
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Seabass » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:30 am

Forty Two wrote: Nobody cares.

Big deal?

and who cares?

Who cares? Nobody.
YOU don't care. Tyrannical doesn't care. Trump obviously doesn't give a shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us are sociopaths.
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Post by Seabass » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:54 am

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:55 am

Forty Two wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote::hehe:

But seriously. Whatever reproachful thing Trump is accused of doing or being means absolutely nothing - there are lots and lots of reproachful people around doing reproachful things all the time, some of them much worse than Trump. Expecting people to be better than they are is just naive, and pointless, especially when it comes to politicians.
What other politicians have done reproachful things, such that you think they should do better?
You seemed to have missed the point. YOU were the one who said other politicians were doing vulgar and narcissistic things.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:06 am

NRA! NRA!
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Trump got positive marks on his handling of the economy, where 48 percent of people approve of his performance, compared to 45 percent who disapprove.

Just over 50 percent of voters disapprove of Trump's handling of both gun policy and foreign affairs, the poll found.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:34 am

White House finally responds:
Mr Cohen who signed gag deal with Stormy has never heard of Stormy!

“In truth, Mr Cohen had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any such person or incident, and does not even believe that any such person exists, or that such incident ever occurred,” Blakely said in the letter, according to Reuters.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:51 am

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by JimC » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:19 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote::hehe:

But seriously. Whatever reproachful thing Trump is accused of doing or being means absolutely nothing - there are lots and lots of reproachful people around doing reproachful things all the time, some of them much worse than Trump. Expecting people to be better than they are is just naive, and pointless, especially when it comes to politicians.
What other politicians have done reproachful things, such that you think they should do better?
You seemed to have missed the point. YOU were the one who said other politicians were doing vulgar and narcissistic things.
And it's pretty standard 42. It's just more of the same as:

1. Random ratzian poster posts criticism of Republicans or Trump

2. 42 will always reply with "Yebbut the Democrats... Yebbut Hillary..."
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:45 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Forty Two wrote:Anyone current? Or, just Trump?
As I said: Lots and lots.
Like? I mean, other than Richard Nixon, and Boss Tweed....

Brian Peacock wrote:
Forty Two wrote:On second thought, who hasn't done reproachful things?
Hasn't?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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