You guys and your guns...

[Blind groper]

Pord.
If I am not there, start without me.

Gawdzilla
No offense meant. Seth type Americans it is.

[JimC]

If you guys would say "Seth-type Americans" instead of lumping us all together I would appreciate it.

Well, "this guy" has tried to do that...

However, the extreme edge of the gun lobby in the states seems to have a lot of political clout...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If you guys would say "Seth-type Americans" instead of lumping us all together I would appreciate it.

Well, "this guy" has tried to do that...

However, the extreme edge of the gun lobby in the states seems to have a lot of political clout...

Jim, with the current paradigm you are insulting Twoflower and my wife.

[Jason]

Pord.
If I am not there, start without me.

Gawdzilla
No offense meant. Seth type Americans it is.

Nonsense! You represent the 'outlaw guns' faction de facto. You must be there. I recommend a Colt Navy (black powder or cartridge conversion), but you may opt for the Remington or a revolver of your choice if you wish.

You issued the challenge. I answer, I assume (with relative certainty) Seth's accepting. Santa Anna - one week. We will settle this issue once and for all in the only civilised manner possible.

[Jason]

If you guys would say "Seth-type Americans" instead of lumping us all together I would appreciate it.

Well, "this guy" has tried to do that...

However, the extreme edge of the gun lobby in the states seems to have a lot of political clout...

Jim, with the current paradigm you are insulting Twoflower and my wife.

That reminds me, did you and Ayaan settle on a suitable firearm for her?

Lemme guess.. a Walther PPK in .380 ACP?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Pord, we were going to a local firing range today, but I didn't make it out of the house. Famfire will have to wait.

[Jason]

Pord, we were going to a local firing range today, but I didn't make it out of the house. Famfire will have to wait.

Well take it easy you scaly old sumbitch. We'd miss you 'round here.

[JimC]

If you guys would say "Seth-type Americans" instead of lumping us all together I would appreciate it.

Well, "this guy" has tried to do that...

However, the extreme edge of the gun lobby in the states seems to have a lot of political clout...

Jim, with the current paradigm you are insulting Twoflower and my wife.

You seriously think so?

In that case, you haven't read my posts carefully at all...

[Blind groper]

You issued the challenge. I answer

I hope I have made it clear throughout this thread that I am not a violent person, or a gun person, and definitely not a gun violence person. Sorry. If you want such an event, I will not be there.

Actually, the mere fact that you have tried to issue such a challenge is symptomatic of the sickness of Seth type American gun culture. The sick gun enthusiasts seem to think that guns are a solution, when they are, in fact, a major part of the problem.

[Jason]

You issued the challenge. I answer

I hope I have made it clear throughout this thread that I am not a violent person, or a gun person, and definitely not a gun violence person. Sorry. If you want such an event, I will not be there.

Actually, the mere fact that you have tried to issue such a challenge is symptomatic of the sickness of Seth type American gun culture. The sick gun enthusiasts seem to think that guns are a solution, when they are, in fact, a major part of the problem.

Good sir, I remind you of the fact that I am merely answering the challenge. You, sir, are the challenger. I remind you, my good sir, that for a large portion of English and, by extension, Australian, Canadian and much of the Commonwealth's, historically, acceptance of duels were not only accepted, but also a honourable imperative. Duels in which firearms were commonly used and mortality not unheard of.

As a Canadian, I ask you: are you formally withdrawing your challenge? (to do so will surely invalidate any claim to honour or manhood)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If you guys would say "Seth-type Americans" instead of lumping us all together I would appreciate it.

Well, "this guy" has tried to do that...

However, the extreme edge of the gun lobby in the states seems to have a lot of political clout...

Jim, with the current paradigm you are insulting Twoflower and my wife.

You seriously think so?

In that case, you haven't read my posts carefully at all...

You make blanket statements about Americans who like guns. That's what I'm talking about.

[JimC]

If you guys would say "Seth-type Americans" instead of lumping us all together I would appreciate it.

Well, "this guy" has tried to do that...

However, the extreme edge of the gun lobby in the states seems to have a lot of political clout...

Jim, with the current paradigm you are insulting Twoflower and my wife.

You seriously think so?

In that case, you haven't read my posts carefully at all...

You make blanket statements about Americans who like guns. That's what I'm talking about.

That, of course, is a reasonable position. I may tend to think your country would be better off if it moved a little more in the regulation direction than you, but you've recognised that it's a position for argument, for debate, and ultimately for some sort of democratic resolution. As I've said many times, the form of the democratic resolution within your country is of course up to you folk, just like our gun regulations are up to us. And some sort of a "let's ban guns" is simplistic and unworkable, of course...

That doesn't stop me from offering an opinion, particularly an opinion on the attitudes of the extreme end of the gun lobby. If I see their proposition that "guns are the only thing standing between us and tyrants" as absurd and deluded, I will say so in no uncertain terms. This in itself is not some blanket form of US bashing, but part of a measured response to a particular set of attitudes.

Others in this thread have gone too far in blanket attacks on the US over the gun issue, which was never my intention, as a careful reading of my posts will confirm.

[Blind groper]

Pord

I made a humerus proposal. Not a challenge. Besides which, I nominated Seth - not anyone else.

If I were in a wild west town, and the big shoot out happened, I would be the guy on the street after it was all over, bandaging the wounds. I would not be one of the shooters. If it has not escaped your notice, I regard the obsession with guns and shooting to be a sickness.

[Jason]

Pord

I made a humerus proposal. Not a challenge. Besides which, I nominated Seth - not anyone else.

If I were in a wild west town, and the big shoot out happened, I would be the guy on the street after it was all over, bandaging the wounds. I would not be one of the shooters. If it has not escaped your notice, I regard the obsession with guns and shooting to be a sickness.

Very well. As I gentleman, I remind you that your second or your third may choose to duel in your place in case you wish to plead illness or unfitness.

[Wumbologist]

Or unless they are Marxists invading my country or trying to overthrow the Constitution and government, which I consider an imminent lethal threat to me and everyone else.

Unless you fall into one of those two categories, you're much safer around me than anyone else you know.

Here I was hoping to enlist your aid in overthrowing our bourgeoisie masters.